(September 24, 2018 at 11:36 am)Crossless2.0 Wrote:(September 24, 2018 at 10:14 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: If God were to appear to everybody everywhere as unmistakably real, undoubtedly a few more people would believe in God and the redemption of Christ than do now. Perhaps some who believe now would turn away, but it's more sensible to presume that more people who didn't previously turn to God then would do so than would turn away from him. The consequence of those few turning toward God would result in eternal happiness for them. The gains are thus infinite. Moreover, Steve has repeatedly said that people who believe in God are more moral than those who don't. So this is something that God could do which would be infinitely better for people as a whole, and which he chooses not to do. So God is choosing a world that is infinitely worse than the one we could have. How is a hidden God good again?
Cue the ‘God doesn’t want to violate our free will’ argument.
Somehow, acknowledgement and worship doesn’t seem to count for Yahweh unless it’s performed by people who don’t have good, compelling reasons to do so. Slavish credulity, offered as an act of “freedom” is the ridiculous alleged bottom line.
It wouldn’t even be violating free will though. Every person would still be free to accept or reject god. At least revealing himself would give everyone a fair shake at making the right choice.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
Wiser words were never spoken.
