RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
September 27, 2018 at 11:32 am
(This post was last modified: September 27, 2018 at 11:44 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(September 27, 2018 at 11:23 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: Second, the claim is that the theist cannot prove that their god is greater than the baby killing god, not that I can prove that the baby killing god is greater. (Rereading your second point, I'm not sure I understand how being great at something that it is not great to be great at would make the baby killing god greater than the supposed omni-greatest god Yahweh. I guess I don't understand your point.)
Why isn't babykilling a metric that can be assessed to see which god is better at it? A neutral objectivist would tell you that it is, even if it's not a metric we subjectively value. You're falling into the same cognitive trap they are with the question above..but it's not a problem for objectivism.
Some bad people are better at being bad than others, and most bad people are better at doing bad shit than good people. In short, there are truly great villains. Invoking godwins law, was Hitler one of histories greats? Emphatically, yes, there are very few metrics that he would score lower on than the average joe on the street - even if he was also a terrible ass like your hypothetical babykilling god.
The hypothetical babykilling god is or at least could be greater than christer god in at least one thing (laying aside that christer god actually is a babykilling god for the simple reason that christers don;t like to think of it that way). Christer god, therefore..cannot be the greatest at everything. The best they can do is tell you that in the metrics they subjectively select, and ignoring their own gods failures to meet those conditions....christer god is better than babykiller god.
Now apply that to an identical god to the christer god..except for one thing..hypothetical babykiller god has killed -more- babies than christer god. Who's greater now? They're equals by christer metrics....but babykiller god has that extra plus-1 on his stats by objective metrics.
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