(September 28, 2018 at 7:21 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:(September 28, 2018 at 7:01 pm)julep Wrote: I agree that "I'm good without god" is an outsider's plea for acceptance,
That's absurd.
(September 28, 2018 at 7:06 pm)Aegon Wrote: The idea that you cant be moral without religion is a bit too silly for me to bother responding to.
It doesn't hurt to point out that you don't need clergy to know what's not moral. Some theists have never considered it any other way.
(September 29, 2018 at 7:08 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:(September 28, 2018 at 8:22 pm)julep Wrote: Sure it is. I already know that I’m good without a religion. I’d only say I am good without god if I am trying to get religious people to treat me as human and moral because they control a lot of social power.
You do what works for you, and maybe ease up on the sweeping generalizations.
(September 29, 2018 at 6:29 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Personally, I go with the question...
"Is it your claim that you have no morals of your own?"
All too accurate all too often.
I answered the question of the OP and probably shouldn't have bothered trying to clarify my thinking in response to your comment. I'm aware that thinking in terms of in- and out-groups is one of a number of ways to frame this situation. I'm gonna write what I'm gonna write, though. If I get dinged for generalizing, that's my broom to drag, I guess.
