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Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron
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RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron
Quote:As I tried to show in the OP - if you actually DO have VALID rational reasons TO believe something then that IOW WOULD count as evidence of the truth of it.

No it wouldn't, it would just strengthen your faith that your assertion is correct based on previous experience.

It is still a rational stance to take as the only alternative is to have to personally validate every claim ever made to you.

The statement that I have faith in my daughter doing her homework is quite rational based on my previous experience with her.

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You may say that my previous experience somehow counts as evidence but of course that would never stand up to scientific scrutiny and therefore cannot be counted as evidence. I must therefore rely on a belief that she is telling the truth, i.e. Faith.

However, if I were to state that I have faith that one of her friends had done her homework but have nothing to support my belief that that may be considered irrational. But rational faith is still not, in itself, an oxymoron.
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Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Edwardo Piet - May 22, 2009 at 6:10 pm
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Dotard - May 23, 2009 at 12:49 am
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Giff - May 23, 2009 at 4:10 am
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Darwinian - May 23, 2009 at 9:33 am
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Darwinian - May 23, 2009 at 10:20 am
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Darwinian - May 23, 2009 at 10:55 am
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Darwinian - May 23, 2009 at 11:43 am
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Darwinian - May 23, 2009 at 11:53 am
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Giff - May 24, 2009 at 6:58 am
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Darwinian - May 24, 2009 at 6:55 am
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Darwinian - May 24, 2009 at 7:52 am
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Darwinian - May 24, 2009 at 8:00 am
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Darwinian - May 24, 2009 at 8:11 am
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Darwinian - May 24, 2009 at 8:13 am
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Darwinian - May 24, 2009 at 8:23 am
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Darwinian - May 24, 2009 at 8:29 am
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Samson - May 24, 2009 at 3:25 pm
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Samson - May 24, 2009 at 4:08 pm
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Samson - May 24, 2009 at 4:39 pm
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Samson - May 24, 2009 at 5:04 pm
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Samson - May 24, 2009 at 7:34 pm
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Samson - May 24, 2009 at 8:13 pm
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Samson - May 24, 2009 at 8:40 pm
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Samson - May 24, 2009 at 10:06 pm
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Samson - May 25, 2009 at 1:22 pm
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by chatpilot - May 26, 2009 at 11:48 am
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Darwinian - May 26, 2009 at 2:25 pm
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Darwinian - May 26, 2009 at 2:30 pm
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Darwinian - May 26, 2009 at 3:00 pm
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Darwinian - May 26, 2009 at 3:10 pm
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by chatpilot - May 26, 2009 at 5:12 pm
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by chatpilot - May 27, 2009 at 12:44 pm
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Darwinian - May 28, 2009 at 1:49 pm
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Darwinian - May 28, 2009 at 7:01 pm
RE: Why 'Rational faith' Is An Oxymoron - by Darwinian - May 28, 2009 at 7:14 pm

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