RE: Why are Christians so full of hate?
October 8, 2018 at 2:47 pm
(This post was last modified: October 8, 2018 at 2:48 pm by Drich.)
(October 8, 2018 at 2:26 pm)Reltzik Wrote:why do you douche bags quote from a dead dialect?(October 8, 2018 at 2:16 pm)Drich Wrote: Show me one example where christians are in the bible commanded to hate.. There is a key word in that sentence, if you go outside of that key word parameter I will harshly rebuke your answer. so maybe study the challenge and see if any of those words pop out at you. don't be lazy or dense. also remember you can always concede the point.
Luke 14:26 (NIV) Wrote:If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters--yes, even their own life--such a person cannot be my disciple.
This verse is often used by Christians to justify turning upon and/or casting out family members who violate the terms of faith in some way or other, especially by being gay or turning apostate.
Oh that's right because you can make it say whatever you want.
What would happen if you read that verse in a plain modern english version?
25 Large crowds were traveling with Jesus. He turned and spoke to them. He said, 26 “Anyone who comes to me must hate their father and mother. They must hate their wife and children. They must hate their brothers and sisters. And they must hate even their own life. Unless they do this, they can’t be my disciple. 27 Whoever doesn’t carry their cross and follow me can’t be my disciple.28 “Suppose one of you wants to build a tower. Won’t you sit down first and figure out how much it will cost? Then you will see whether you have enough money to finish it. 29 Suppose you start building and are not able to finish. Then everyone who sees what you have done will laugh at you. 30 They will say, ‘This person started to build but wasn’t able to finish.’
31 “Or suppose a king is about to go to war against another king. And suppose he has 10,000 men, while the other has 20,000 coming against him. Won’t he first sit down and think about whether he can win? 32 And suppose he decides he can’t win. Then he will send some men to ask how peace can be made. He will do this while the other king is still far away. 33 In the same way, you must give up everything you have. Those of you who don’t cannot be my disciple.
Boo-ya-ka!
So rather than a command... We read sarcasm we read a warning. Jesus had a huge crowd of people following him. He knew for most they were they to be fed or entertained.. So he says If you follow me you must 'obviously' hate your family (because you have to sell everything and neglect them in favor of helping strangers.) and what's worse Die with him/take up your cross and follow me."
that is what counting the cost of building a tower or going to war is all about. Jesus is telling people to count all the costs before they make the commitment to follow him. think about your mother think about your father your husband your wife. what would happen if/when you die. you will have loved Jesus' hard life over the commitment you have already made. count the costs!
Not to hate people you cherry picking lazy/or bad person.
(October 8, 2018 at 2:24 pm)Thoreauvian Wrote:(October 7, 2018 at 10:42 am)Mathilda Wrote: Obviously not all of them. Some are just default Xtians who happen to have been raised in a country where Xtianity is the predominant religion. But I mean that ones who take it seriously. So many of them are full of hatred or ascribe this emotion to their god. God hates sin, homosexuals or anything or anyone not like them. Why is this?
I chalk it up to the concept of everlasting punishment in Hell for nonbelievers. Christians who believe in Hell have to make up reasons why it's justified, or else the God they worship is a monster.
book chapter and verse please.