As extreme or strange as the position Jesus attributed himself and the Torah attributed Adam and others with as the Image and word of light of God brought to life.
At the end, morality and goodness from Atheism is a program with no substance but what we decided to give it, which makes circular by definition, we generate it yet feel bound to obey it, it's guidance but we are programming it's guidance so it's us deciding how to act, there is no essential reality to it, not a singular universal agreed upon aspect, and there is no score keeping of any "true" good acts or evil acts because there is none of that in reality, it's a psychological thing we inherited, and in the past, it was justified by mythology.
There is no place it is found, it's more chaotic then ordered, and there is no universal guidance nor perception to it, it is like chaotic winds that sail our boat.
Love is left to chaotically judge with no guidance, and make decisions based on ignorance, and there is no essence to goodness in this respect, it's a concept with nothing backing it up, value given to ourselves and others, without an absolute source or basis, nothing but what culture makes it to be.
The only thing genetics proves in this regard, is that it's beneficially to follow "morality" and the leaders who claim to represent it, only that, if naturalism is true, no one actually represents it or even knows what it is.
As strange as Jesus being a instance of God's word and path brought to life, and the door of light and morning star from the household of guidance of that time, as strange as that sounds, there is no way to account for a real essence of guidance pertaining to love, and hence goodness is but a delusional concept we inherited if this is true.
Either there is a full fledge reliable connecting reality by which we have rights of one another, by which relationships are established by truth, by which we ask through regarding one another, and either there is a reliable guidance to all that, or it's just an empty corpse.
Concepts of morality would not make morality but if we are program and our brain generates the code for morality, it's not binding, it's just whatever we wish it to be, and that has really no substance...
And we aren't real in the sense think we are, our deeds don't form a part of our value, it's all delusional, something we inherited from mythology of unseen accountability of the soul, but it would be too an illusion.
There is no rising up stages or falling down, no misguidance or guidance, it's sheer chaos.
Why abandon everything we know about goodness, just to say we don't need God for it?
You hate God that much that you have to separate his light from him, and what are you really left with but chaotic dress up over a vile chaos, just lip serving some chaotic concept of goodness as goodness just to function.
Be truthful to yourself and the eyes of the unseen will open up doors out of the darkness.
At the end, morality and goodness from Atheism is a program with no substance but what we decided to give it, which makes circular by definition, we generate it yet feel bound to obey it, it's guidance but we are programming it's guidance so it's us deciding how to act, there is no essential reality to it, not a singular universal agreed upon aspect, and there is no score keeping of any "true" good acts or evil acts because there is none of that in reality, it's a psychological thing we inherited, and in the past, it was justified by mythology.
There is no place it is found, it's more chaotic then ordered, and there is no universal guidance nor perception to it, it is like chaotic winds that sail our boat.
Love is left to chaotically judge with no guidance, and make decisions based on ignorance, and there is no essence to goodness in this respect, it's a concept with nothing backing it up, value given to ourselves and others, without an absolute source or basis, nothing but what culture makes it to be.
The only thing genetics proves in this regard, is that it's beneficially to follow "morality" and the leaders who claim to represent it, only that, if naturalism is true, no one actually represents it or even knows what it is.
As strange as Jesus being a instance of God's word and path brought to life, and the door of light and morning star from the household of guidance of that time, as strange as that sounds, there is no way to account for a real essence of guidance pertaining to love, and hence goodness is but a delusional concept we inherited if this is true.
Either there is a full fledge reliable connecting reality by which we have rights of one another, by which relationships are established by truth, by which we ask through regarding one another, and either there is a reliable guidance to all that, or it's just an empty corpse.
Concepts of morality would not make morality but if we are program and our brain generates the code for morality, it's not binding, it's just whatever we wish it to be, and that has really no substance...
And we aren't real in the sense think we are, our deeds don't form a part of our value, it's all delusional, something we inherited from mythology of unseen accountability of the soul, but it would be too an illusion.
There is no rising up stages or falling down, no misguidance or guidance, it's sheer chaos.
Why abandon everything we know about goodness, just to say we don't need God for it?
You hate God that much that you have to separate his light from him, and what are you really left with but chaotic dress up over a vile chaos, just lip serving some chaotic concept of goodness as goodness just to function.
Be truthful to yourself and the eyes of the unseen will open up doors out of the darkness.