Why are Christians so full of hate?

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Jesus fucking Christ this douche  condones and excuses slavery now, SO I WAS RIGHT to be justifiably outraged and also upset by his dishonest weasel word debate tactics, I thought I perhaps had gone to far but clearly I didn't go far enough, the guy really is a fucking monster and evil too, and  any of you tacitly defending him or excusing his behaviour should be absolutely fucking ashamed of yourselves too, this individual is the sort of person who in the 15th and 16th century would have been cool with burning people at the stake, probably would have physically done it himself too.

He excuses just about anything you can think of, and he'll say almost anything to anyone. You’ve just dipped your toes in so far. If he’s already getting you wound up, my advice is put him on ignore now before something worse comes up. There's no reasoning with him on any of this.

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Honestly I always though me being out right and honest was the one thing you all did not really question...

I read your whole story there. Some pretty awful stuff, really. I feel for you man.

One thing I would say is that the religious interpretation of matters is but one among many. For you, God became a positive force that you can rely on. And after having gone through all that, after seeing how cruel and merciless the world can be, you found a way out. You interpreted God as being the cause of your salvation from torment, and thus now you see God as a way to help others transcend "the world gone mad."

But you are just one example. There are other examples. For instance, a young woman who was rescued from the sex trafficking industry and put into a loving atmosphere where she was educated and allowed to flourish as a human being might not embrace religion as you have. She might find it meaningful to become an advocate and create an organization which seeks to aid young women and girls who are in predicaments similar to hers. For you to tell her "No, no... you're doing it wrong because you haven't accepted my laundry list of beliefs" would be a demonstration of profound ignorance, not to mention a blindness to the fact that others in the world have suffered difficulties just like you. I guess my point is: your story, while valuable, is certainly not unique. There are other, similar stories that others have told except God is not part of the resolution.

In regards to honesty, I agree that you are honest. But only inasmuch as you yourself believe what you are saying. To me, their is a deeper honesty to be had, one where one (not only) speaks the truth as they know it, but also, questions their own worldview and participates in outside scrutiny of it. I see you as more of a "tow the line" sort of Christian in that, you seek to defend Christianity from all criticism, honest or otherwise. Maybe I'm wrong about that.

I think he’s one of the most honest theists we have here in a certain way. He'll come out and say what he believes and how he thinks the world should be. His belief systems are way more consistent than most, because he doesn’t deny the horrific logical conclusions. He has no compass to tell him when to stop. This is what makes people like him so dangerous. At this stage in his life, I think secular law is the only thing holding him at bay. I don’t know what else anyone could possibly do, since all the things we would normally appeal to aren’t present.