Intercessory prayer is pointless

[Drich]

Where in there do you see intercession? where in there aside from our daily need do you see a asking cermony/meaning where in Jesus' own example of pray is he saying it is ok to ask God for the crap you want in your life to make it easier? He doesn't.

So you're saying all the Christians in all the churches that have time carved out of every service are wrong? You're saying all the Christians privately praying for intercession are wrong?

I mean, I agree with you on that much.

I'm pointing out there is only one model of prayer. Jesus Christ himself presented it. He was directly asked "Lord, teach us how to pray." and what he came up with is what I outlined from luke 11. In essence the 'Lord's prayer' is the only outline of actual prayer. Now we also have examples of paul teaching his people to Go before God asking for their wants and needs but he identifies this not as prayer but as petition.

That said you would be shocked at how much the church does or does not do that the bible teaches the opposite on.

omnibenevolent God, no here in the bible does it says God loves everyone. in fact there is a list of those in whom God hates. God is said to Agape' which is a form of love it is conditional but ever lasting.

Eternal punishment in Hell. no where once does it say our souls will burn forever in hell. in fact it does say hell is forever and Satan will be made to burn forever not as a ruler of hell but to be punished in hell forever, for us Hell is the second death it is where the soul is destroyed. this bible and even Jesus mentions this over and over.

As a Christian you do not need or priest or prophet as a go between between you and God, We have the holy Spirit. in fact if we simply learn to Ask Seek and knock on His terms God himself via the Spirit will give you everything you need to establish and maintain faith.

The biggest one. morality. once you accept Christ you are free from the law as a means to salvation or righteousness. meaning all of God's law is boiled down to two simple commands Love God with all your being And love your neighbor as your self.

So how can the church be wrong and still be the church? because the same grace that is extended to us when we willfully sin is that more more available when we love God with all of our being and we simply fall short with our limited ability to comprehend an infinite God.. Maning if God is willing to forgive when we seek to be wrong/evil then his grace is far better spent when we get somthing wrong/misunderstand how God works when we are trying to love God with the full extent of our ablity!