Intercessory prayer is pointless

[Abaddon_ire]

I'm pointing out there is only one model of prayer. Jesus Christ himself presented it. He was directly asked "Lord, teach us how to pray." and what he came up with is what I outlined from luke 11. In essence the 'Lord's prayer' is the only outline of actual prayer.

No, you are pointing out that your magic book makes that claim and that is all.

Now we also have examples of paul teaching his people to Go before God asking for their wants and needs but he identifies this not as prayer but as petition.

Yay for paul the wingnut. So what? Paul made all manner of wild claims. Is there evidence for any of them? No.

That said you would be shocked at how much the church does or does not do that the bible teaches the opposite on.

You mean like your claims?

omnibenevolent God, no here in the bible does it says God loves everyone. in fact there is a list of those in whom God hates. God is said to Agape' which is a form of love it is conditional but ever lasting.

Which makes both you and your god liars because the bible claims exactly that. Clearly, you have not read the evil book

Eternal punishment in Hell. no where once does it say our souls will burn forever in hell. in fact it does say hell is forever and Satan will be made to burn forever not as a ruler of hell but to be punished in hell forever, for us Hell is the second death it is where the soul is destroyed. this bible and even Jesus mentions this over and over.

And the consequence of that nonsense is that I have no motivation to not be an atheist. It won't matter at all.

As a Christian you do not need or priest or prophet as a go between between you and God, We have the holy Spirit.

By which you mean the unholy rapist. How does it feel for you to be an apologist for rape?

in fact if we simply learn to Ask Seek and knock on His terms God himself via the Spirit will give you everything you need to establish and maintain faith.

Been there done that. gunderscored was a no show, so fukkim.

The biggest one. morality. once you accept Christ you are free from the law as a means to salvation or righteousness.

Not according to the words of jebus in your fairy book.

meaning all of God's law is boiled down to two simple commands Love God with all your being And love your neighbor as your self.

Out go the TC.

So how can the church be wrong and still be the church?

By flat out lying like you.

because the same grace that is extended to us when we willfully sin is that more more available when we love God with all of our being and we simply fall short with our limited ability to comprehend an infinite God..

Ah. Prayers rise up to god and somehow grace drizzles down from above. Messages going side to side are right out as they might collide with the rising prayers or the descending grace. Thus the internet is evil.

And WTF does "more more" mean? Is that more more than more?

Maning if God is willing to forgive when we seek to be wrong/evil then his grace is far better spent when we get somthing wrong/misunderstand how God works when we are trying to love God with the full extent of our ablity!

"Maning" Is that some new trend in haircuts like a mullet?

Why should we attempt to love your god? As described I am far more likely to kick such a being "inna fork". As you would describe him/her/it/housecat, it deserves to die.