RE: What are your answers?
September 25, 2011 at 7:16 pm
(This post was last modified: September 25, 2011 at 9:00 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Actually most of the structural foundations of language (even words like atoms) and knowledge required to convey an idea such as "the big bang" we're well known by the time any of the NT was written. God could have cleared up creation quite nicely. Actually it wouldn't have been difficult to communicate the idea in the bronze age either. But you know god, doesn't like to show his hand before the chips are in. If the message were complete there would be 1, count em, 1 christian denomination. There are a few more than that. All this talk about how atheists like to constrain god within arbitrary or contradictory limits and here you are stating that his inability to convey a message was due to what? The inability of his creation to understand it, bzzzt, wrong. At the same time you claim that we could not possibly have understood something like "way back in the day, there was a tremendous fucking explosion" we are apparently able to understand the great cosmic message of god? Bullshit.
At least there was ounce of sense in your post. The bible wasn't written by god. You know what they call it when someone tells a story differently every time you ask? A lie. So, if god's going to give different answers depending on who's asking and when, I'm gonna go ahead and put the bullshit blanket over the entire story because there's no god damned way to know which version is true, and when he's just fucking with us. What god are you arguing for here? Loki?
Does your bible not contain "magical skills of premonition"? The culture that creates and defines a myth is unbelievably (almost exclusively) relevant to any discussion about that myth. I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that those "irrelevant things" are the ones that require a wave of the hand because you are uncomfortable with your lack of satisfactory response, and understand the implications of the statement.
"Why does religious mythology contain only the knowledge of any given culture within it?"-Because it was written by men, without the aide or communication of any god, despite repeated claims to the contrary and threats of eternal damnation to those who would doubt these claims. Unless you have evidence to the contrary. Or perhaps you wish to propose a god who just didn't know this sort of stuff, or would screw with us to see how long we'll believe garbage?
Something tells me that you're unwilling to re-translate the entire text as metaphor (and that's what you'd have to do to make it plausible). So don't waste my time with "genesis isn't material creation". Fine, that's your belief, I agree. Problem is we're only three pages into the text and your arm would fall off before you could wave the rest of the garbage away. A careful reading and interpretation of Betty Crockers Good Home Cooking can offer an identical narrative to the bible, and that is why I can't take you seriously when you speak. If your text can say 38,000 different things (depending, apparently, on time and the person reading it) then it doesn't say anything at all. I can't even begin to describe how absurd your responses have been, from day one to now.
So what, exactly, is the message of god Frodo?
At least there was ounce of sense in your post. The bible wasn't written by god. You know what they call it when someone tells a story differently every time you ask? A lie. So, if god's going to give different answers depending on who's asking and when, I'm gonna go ahead and put the bullshit blanket over the entire story because there's no god damned way to know which version is true, and when he's just fucking with us. What god are you arguing for here? Loki?
Does your bible not contain "magical skills of premonition"? The culture that creates and defines a myth is unbelievably (almost exclusively) relevant to any discussion about that myth. I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that those "irrelevant things" are the ones that require a wave of the hand because you are uncomfortable with your lack of satisfactory response, and understand the implications of the statement.
"Why does religious mythology contain only the knowledge of any given culture within it?"-Because it was written by men, without the aide or communication of any god, despite repeated claims to the contrary and threats of eternal damnation to those who would doubt these claims. Unless you have evidence to the contrary. Or perhaps you wish to propose a god who just didn't know this sort of stuff, or would screw with us to see how long we'll believe garbage?
Something tells me that you're unwilling to re-translate the entire text as metaphor (and that's what you'd have to do to make it plausible). So don't waste my time with "genesis isn't material creation". Fine, that's your belief, I agree. Problem is we're only three pages into the text and your arm would fall off before you could wave the rest of the garbage away. A careful reading and interpretation of Betty Crockers Good Home Cooking can offer an identical narrative to the bible, and that is why I can't take you seriously when you speak. If your text can say 38,000 different things (depending, apparently, on time and the person reading it) then it doesn't say anything at all. I can't even begin to describe how absurd your responses have been, from day one to now.
So what, exactly, is the message of god Frodo?
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