(October 15, 2018 at 11:55 am)MysticKnight Wrote: This constant testification thing to Atheism, is not gonna work lol, because you guys yourself say the burden of proof is on Theists, so that means you are just constantly testifying based on not seeing whether there are proofs or not.
But the only "proofs" you have, are old books full of crazy stories. Outside of that, you have ZERO things.
I'm realing failing how any theist can be like "LOL I have to prove something to somebody that doesn't believe? What a fucking joke". You have to understand, some people are atheists who were formally theist and saw for themselves the LACK of evidence to back up their religions claims. You yourself had a "crisis of faith" at some point, [despite totally doubling down on it now for some reason]. Whilst there those like me, who have been atheists their entire lives.
Some, like myself, looked into various religions and their holy texts during their lives to see "what all this religion malarky is all about". When you think about various things including; the time these books were supposedly written, their contents [even you have to admit, its like 80% shady shit like killing people, 15% 'And then magic happened' and 5% 'based in a real world setting'] and more importantly their relevance to the real world as it is today.
Religion, is and always has been, a form of control on others. First with promises of great things when you die, and followed up with "or burn in hell" if you don't do it. I might be one of few atheists who genuinly wishes god/heaven and all that basic line shit was real, because my life would be 100% simpler. I would know for fact who created me/everybody/the universe, and wouldn't have to worry about what to do with my life. To me, if the entire world KNEW this to be true, what would be the point of anything (Jobs, money, day to day bullshit) when your supposed god(s) just want us to live a good life and praise them all the time [for some reason?].
Yet here we are. No evidence of any kind. Human life is not "special" on a global/universal scale. We are but one of many other animals on the planet. There is no after life of any kind, so stop wasting your time now.
In all honesty, I'm not against those that believe. I have members of my own family that are believers in something or another. The problem is when it becomes your whole life and you are just a "tool" of your supposed belief system. Like, believe in a god? Great. Why are you busy here telling us about it, like we're all fools and should know better? Does you god judge solely on those that praise them, despite that being overly vain and selfish or do they base their decisions based on a persons actions in life? IF the latter, then most of us are probably gonna see you up there, if it's true. So stop wasting your life acting like a sanctimonious a-hole trying to preach to athesits about how wrong we are and trying to convert. You'll find at the very WORST, that we like to ask questions, and a lot of things don't add up.
For example: Lets say god IS real. Why do I HAVE to praise them? I have my own conscious or free will? Should I be greatful he created us all? Why? Does he draw power from my praise? Or is he just a giant self centered ass hole who needs people to boost his own ego? I mean take your pick really.
"Be Excellent To Each Other"