Intercessory prayer is pointless

[Drich]

What are you having problems with? I have given you Paul, The father of the gentile church our church... He said there is only 2 ways to to go before God... The way Jesus prayed/formal prayer and petitions or supplications in some translation. Why can't you not accept this truth? why are you looking for loop holes?? If you belong to the church then you would be subject to the teaching of Paul. Subsequently when Paul says there are only two forms of speaking to God, prayer and supplication then that is it.. why are you looking for answers where you know the bible is silent? why not use what the bible does say? do you think God is obligated to 'fund' you just because you think you found a loop hole using broken logic? No. Jesus was directly asked How do we pray. He gave only one example. No other examples were given. However Paul when telling his church how to go before God He mentions not only Christ's prayer but... also granted us permission to also petition God. Meaning prayer is what Jesus taught, everything else we ask for is supplication.

Yeah, I read Phl 4:6. I read the surrounding passages, and I have no idea where you're getting the idea that Paul was telling people the only two ways to pray.

This kinda gets right back to what I said about interpretations. There's nothing in there explicitly limiting the types of prayer. So, maybe this is less of an issue of you not getting set theory, and more of an issue of you thinking you can infer implied meanings into the Bible.

Again as in my first post.... The two words paul used in the koine greek define prayer as to what it is and what supplication or petitioning is. The directive you seek may not be found in your english understanding of the translative word but in the nature of the greek the word prayer is that of a formal prayer offer to God. to this point in the whole of scripture there is only one example of such a prayer and that is the one Jesus taught in luke 11.

again prayer as Jesus taught follows the out line of acknowledging God honoring his deity and what he has done, we then pray for acceptance of his will in our life and in the world we can ask for our daily NEED and we ask for forgiveness based on our ability to forgive. then we can lose the prayer any way we like we can use any words we like but we must approach God with respect, ask him to help us accept and follow his will (not ours which is the only real difference between petition and prayer) then ask and remind our selves that our salvation depends on our willingness to forgive others.

All other prayer... is petition.

Maybe that is what you do not understand.

Petition is a form of prayer but not the one and only formal prayer Jesus taught which is what sets petition apart from prayer.

Here's the thing because there are no other examples of formal prayer in the bible when formal prayer is referenced it points back to the one prayer Jesus taught us to pray.

Now that I answered your question answer the questions I asked you as to why this is so important to you.