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Intercessory prayer is pointless
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RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless
(October 19, 2018 at 12:54 pm)Joods Wrote: Well I'm glad that's worked out for you.
You can give credit to your god, however, I'm more inclined to attribute all that you have to your own hard work and not as a result of anything an unseeable friend could offer.
Without a doubt I work hoard, but you also see the volume of time I spend in places like this researching and answering questions.. 4 to 6 hours aday right out of the middle of the work day.. for the last 10+ years. yet this business keeps on keeping on. Not to mention how I got started with money from a man i never met before.. 25,000 loan on a complete stranger who's wife (at the time) was a 200 dollar a day heroin addict.


Quote:That's just me. All throughout my life, even as a child, I never felt that god was a presence in my life. I would ask questions regarding his reality or ask to see some physical presence and was told that I just have to have faith and believe.
because the person you asked did not know how to access God. What did Jesus say when doubting thomas needed proof? He said blessed are those who can just believe, but for those who doubted like thomas Jesus provided everything he needed to establish and maintain faith. The same is true for me and so Goes the same for millions of others who know to ask for the Holy Spirit.
You learn to ask for the Holy SPirit on his terms and God... Shows up. We don't need priests prophets or any go betweens. The HolySpirit/God deals with us one on one. This is not a me thing, meaning I am no one special and look at what God has done. I simply learn to seek his on his terms and not my own.

Quote:I grew out of the imaginary friend stage when I was six.
I never had one.

Quote: But even into adulthood I was still willing to give god a chance. Different churches all led me back to the same conclusion: there is no true evidence that god exists. Personal stories and experiences are not proof. Not to me and not to countless others who feel the same way.
the church is a tool to supposed to set you up with a relationship. unfortuniatly the church has become a club to exclude others and sell a specific brand of christianity.

I do not represent a specific brand. I teach/tell people find one that suits you and seek a personal relationship with God per his promises to have one with you if you can meet him on his terms. from there then pick a church, pick a denomination.

It is an ask seek knock thing. I know, I know all of you think you have done this.. what you haven't done is the knock part. to knock means to keep asking and seeking till God shows up. if God does not show up you didn't knock as luke 11 prescribes.. The difference? is not what you presuppose it has nothing to do with imagination. to knock is to remain faithful in ask and seeking while God sends the trials of life to wipe away any corrupt version of god you might have in you. it will have you re-examine the old grandfather image while you a good person is having to deal with a undeserved hardship.. it has you cry out past the God who you thinks trades good deeds for granted prayers/wishes. to know makes you push past your own ideas of who and what God is and truly seek what is out there... the God of the bible. and when you follow this idea so far out well beyond getting the help you need from others from friend from family, and help comes.. not luck but organised help that systematically takes away your hardship you will know or see the hand of God in your life... The harder the heart, however the harder the trial will have to be. meaning you must be willing to do whatever it takes. How badly do you want proof? Life and hardship is coming anyway, why not turn into the pain and use it to help you find what you are looking for?
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Intercessory prayer is pointless - by RobbyPants - September 27, 2018 at 5:29 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Minimalist - September 27, 2018 at 5:40 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Dom - September 27, 2018 at 5:46 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Joods - September 27, 2018 at 6:53 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by brewer - September 27, 2018 at 7:41 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by The Valkyrie - September 27, 2018 at 7:55 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by KevinM1 - September 27, 2018 at 9:04 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by AFTT47 - September 28, 2018 at 1:07 am
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by RobbyPants - September 28, 2018 at 9:12 am
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Minimalist - September 27, 2018 at 10:21 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by robvalue - September 28, 2018 at 1:12 am
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Minimalist - September 28, 2018 at 1:18 am
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by pgrimes15 - October 19, 2018 at 2:49 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 28, 2018 at 3:21 am
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by SteveII - September 28, 2018 at 9:53 am
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Abaddon_ire - September 28, 2018 at 10:13 am
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by RobbyPants - September 28, 2018 at 10:44 am
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by SteveII - September 28, 2018 at 11:32 am
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by SaStrike - September 28, 2018 at 1:57 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by SteveII - September 28, 2018 at 4:08 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Abaddon_ire - September 28, 2018 at 8:57 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by RobbyPants - September 28, 2018 at 10:00 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Jehanne - September 29, 2018 at 9:44 am
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Minimalist - October 11, 2018 at 4:11 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Bucky Ball - October 11, 2018 at 10:40 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Angrboda - September 29, 2018 at 10:23 am
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by RobbyPants - September 28, 2018 at 2:39 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Abaddon_ire - September 28, 2018 at 8:26 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by SteveII - September 28, 2018 at 8:38 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Jehanne - September 28, 2018 at 9:16 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Abaddon_ire - September 29, 2018 at 10:54 am
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Minimalist - September 28, 2018 at 12:02 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by The Grand Nudger - September 28, 2018 at 1:31 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by The Grand Nudger - September 28, 2018 at 2:25 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by purplepurpose - September 28, 2018 at 2:37 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 28, 2018 at 2:57 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Dr H - September 28, 2018 at 5:52 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by The Grand Nudger - September 28, 2018 at 8:40 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Drich - October 11, 2018 at 3:15 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by RobbyPants - October 11, 2018 at 4:01 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Drich - October 15, 2018 at 1:53 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Abaddon_ire - October 15, 2018 at 3:35 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by RobbyPants - October 16, 2018 at 10:45 am
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Abaddon_ire - October 16, 2018 at 11:24 am
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Drich - October 17, 2018 at 4:03 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by RobbyPants - October 18, 2018 at 11:03 am
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Drich - October 18, 2018 at 1:34 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by RobbyPants - October 18, 2018 at 3:24 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Drich - October 18, 2018 at 4:30 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Joods - October 18, 2018 at 6:34 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Drich - October 19, 2018 at 12:26 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Joods - October 17, 2018 at 4:11 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Drich - October 18, 2018 at 11:34 am
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Joods - October 18, 2018 at 12:49 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Bucky Ball - October 11, 2018 at 4:20 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by RobbyPants - October 12, 2018 at 9:24 am
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Drich - October 18, 2018 at 2:40 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Joods - October 18, 2018 at 3:47 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Bucky Ball - October 18, 2018 at 7:48 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by onlinebiker - October 11, 2018 at 3:22 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by robvalue - October 11, 2018 at 11:38 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Nay_Sayer - October 18, 2018 at 11:46 am
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Dr H - October 18, 2018 at 6:52 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Nay_Sayer - October 18, 2018 at 9:20 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Dr H - October 19, 2018 at 2:25 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Nay_Sayer - October 19, 2018 at 4:30 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Dr H - October 22, 2018 at 2:33 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Nay_Sayer - October 23, 2018 at 1:10 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Minimalist - October 18, 2018 at 12:18 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by RobbyPants - October 18, 2018 at 4:50 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Drich - October 19, 2018 at 10:54 am
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by RobbyPants - October 19, 2018 at 2:05 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Drich - October 22, 2018 at 2:37 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by RobbyPants - October 23, 2018 at 8:42 am
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Joods - October 19, 2018 at 12:54 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Drich - October 22, 2018 at 11:17 am
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Bucky Ball - October 19, 2018 at 1:50 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Drich - October 22, 2018 at 1:06 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Abaddon_ire - October 22, 2018 at 2:39 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Drich - October 23, 2018 at 9:18 am
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Bucky Ball - October 23, 2018 at 2:45 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Drich - October 23, 2018 at 4:31 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Bucky Ball - October 23, 2018 at 6:49 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Drich - October 24, 2018 at 11:06 am
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Bucky Ball - October 24, 2018 at 2:02 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Bucky Ball - October 23, 2018 at 10:42 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Dr H - October 23, 2018 at 4:41 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by KevinM1 - October 23, 2018 at 10:05 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Joods - October 23, 2018 at 10:16 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Minimalist - October 23, 2018 at 11:03 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by CarveTheFive - October 24, 2018 at 1:16 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Minimalist - October 24, 2018 at 1:47 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Minimalist - October 24, 2018 at 2:21 pm
RE: Intercessory prayer is pointless - by Minimalist - October 27, 2018 at 6:33 pm

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