Intercessory prayer is pointless

[Drich]

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"Lazy-ass West Coast University" ... really. You couldn't GET IN to Cal-Tech if you tried. You are SO incredibly ignorant you "might" not even be accepted at Biola .. even though they take anyone,

1... I was think more along the lines of everyone gets a trophy berkley because that is the type of diploma mill that fosters the term 'free thought' but demands everyone to think the same way.. IE attack the messenger and you don't have to concern yourself with the message.. when that doesn't work get violent.

And I would not go there for anything.

It's actually not up to you to decide who is a "real" atheist (the plural of "atheist" is "atheists" ... a common mistake of the illiterate and uneducated, and those who can't spell.)

why would i speak about atheists when I am addressing you and your specific failures and shortcomings? do you honestly believe that your failures as an individual translate to all who believe as you do? granted you all share some common thoughts but, yours is a failure of intellectual capacity and a close mind to what you think you know.. while most share a close mind to what they think they know most of your peers and nd do understand the basics of Christianity...
..But that was a beautifully spelled retort, failed intellect aside, you can spell which i guess in your circles that is all that matters....

Ah yes .... back to the hermeneutic of insult. Did Jesus ever do that ?

YES YOU F-ING MORON!!! That is what got Him Killed!!! He kept insulting and show up the Religious elite! Every chance he got he'd see their little traps and answer them in a way to make them seem like a fool for asking. then he started out right calling them names like blind guides snakes wolves telling people that they knew nothing of God ect.. why? for the same reason I blast you. They misrepresent God for their own gain. They did it to make money you cast God in a negative light so you can live in your own squaller. Matter of fact here is a whole chpater dedicated to a single rant Jesus had calling pharisees bad names!
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...rsion=NKJV

Jesus basically Damned them.. God.. Damned these men and they were furious.. They saw themselves as being above everyone else just one rung below God and this man who said he was the son of God basically said they were garbage in front of their whole little world.

Not only that Jesus was very hard on his disciples... Jesus changed simon's name to "peter" or petra which inthe greek mean unstable can't count on.most think it means rock or foundation, not the case that word is petros petra is small unstable loose soil.

Now look at all you didn't know about Jesus as the bible describes him.. yet you claim to be in a position to determine with out a doubt there is no God. what a joke.. at best all you can say is your version of God the holier than thou jesus and the god who sees petition and pray as the same does not exist.

You really LOVE playing snarky old church-lady don't you ? LOL
You are no Christian ... you tell yourself you are, .... in fact you are not at all Christ-like. 

again your version of Christ does not exist. that is the only thing you can proove yet you expect me to follow you failed example?!?!

Do you qualify for the "By their love you will know them ?" (John 13:35) LMAO .... um no. You're nothing but an un-Christian (ignorant fundy) judgmental jerk who fancies himself a preacher doing his imaginary friend's work.

I bet the pharisees did not feel love when Jesus down dressed them in front of their whole world. In truth love is what put him there correcting or showing them the truth despite their 'feelings' on how they wanted to be loved. That's the key.. it's not about showing people the love they want but loving them enough to show and stick with the truth!

For many decades, (perhaps centuries) the early Christians were still Jews. They were in no way freed from anything. They STILL went to synagogue until at least 100 CE, (the Jewish High Priest demanded the Expulsion Curses be read. The Christians were STILL coming, and causing trouble, it seems.  

Ah... no. From the beginning there were two primary sects of Christianity. Peter lead one who were primarily converted Jews and what's more converted people to judaism before they could be baptized into christianity (meaning the men were circumcised) and then there was Paul, who's efforts was to put Judaism aside and treat Christianity separately. Subsequently the bible we have is modeled after Paul's works not peters from the 3rd century forward. even the teaching Paul favored that we should not be circumcised takes precedence from the first century forward. Meaning there was a Jewish church for the first of second generation but ultimately the gentile church PAul's church is what we have now.

http://lawrenceschiffman.com/the-benedic...the-minim/
In his Christmas sermon (400 CE) (St.) John Chrysostom told HIS congregation (Constantinople) to STOP going to synagogue.  
So yeah, .... the traditional BS of Christians were "free" from the old law, is nothing but bullshit. 

ah, no again. the Jews Peter's church was deep into the law which again is not the model of the church that survived. And Again we have so much freedom in the law we can bind ourselves to the law. meaning we are so free if we think we need to live under the law we are free enough to do so. there are miles of scripture to support this idea not only that but examples such as meat offer to idols if one man thinks it a sin to eat offere to an idol then for him it is wrong and for the sake of the weaker brother you also should not eat meat offer to an idol so he may not be tempted and sin in his own mind.

Just because we have freedom doesn't mean we have to live free. look at the catholic church it is full of self governing rules, because that is what those people need in their minds to worship God. How ever in the bible there are examples after examples of casting off the law as our means to righteousness.

There is not one shred of evidence that prayer works.

what are you talking about prayer works 100% of the time
what you people generally think as prayer is actually petition.

There is evidence that heart attack victims who are prayed for actually do worse.

petition is not prayer praying to get out of a heart attack is petition.

https://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/31/healt...rayer.html
It's moronic. if god has a plan, then prayer intends to screw it up. If a god is actually in charge, then it is doing what it wants ... innocent babies getting cancer etc etc.  
Drich can spew this religious BS all he wants. He has NEVER once had a convert here. He's wasting his time, as he has nothing constructive to do.

there are 'a few' members who no longer consider themselves 'atheist.' Some still are apart of the website some have moved on. some emailed me for years every single day asking questions and wanting prayers.

That said it is not about converting anyone. it is about sharing the truth. So when you get your sentence you won't have to wonder what if I had only know the truth? would I have responded differently if I was not left to believe God was who I had in mind! That idea of what if made Hell that much worse for me and I wanted a chance to take that question out of the minds of as many as I could.