(November 14, 2018 at 9:31 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: If you think you're at the top of the world, feel like your horse is too high, this topic is for you.
Hell, you know very well that when people fought, it usually is for money or land. Religious wars ended so long ago, and with the "Mongol Invasion" that dropped so many dead, it was obvious that it is not religion that moves nations
World War 1 was the next huge war, followed by World War 2. and non of them were waged because of religion.
The consequences of these wars created everything terrible we see with our world today; from countries built out of thin-air to satisfy the non-religious finite needs and interests of mad global powers -like Israel and the Arab countries- to super weapons -like the atomic bomb-. The non-believers killed the world with a straight A+.
Europeans when discussing Muslims, talk a lot about how the Middle East was always fucked up. But what about Europe? wasn't it so dark just a little while ago, the average age in it is 30 or younger? Did Europe forget the "War of the Roses" or the mad campaigns waged by kings ?
Americans when discussing Muslims also repeat the same broken record. But did Americans forget the civil war, the war in Iraq, the war on Afghanistan, and WW2; the first use ever of an atomic bomb over civilians?
Isn't it hilarious, to see a European whining about "Islamic Terrorism"? despite his brethren killing Millions in Japan just a few years ago? I mean if you use something monstrous like atomic bombs; what do you except your enemy to come carrying? flowers???
When the American forces invaded Iraq:
Atlass, nobody here thinks we are above it all.
Do yourself a favor. STOP letting labels, yours or others, get in the way of accepting the fact we are all the same species.
You have often said you hate the government you live under. I have said I was willing to treat you as an individual outside your government.
I DO NOT like all of my country's history. I do not like what we did to Native Americans or blacks or women or Japanese Americans during WW2.
If you point to the west and say we've been cruel, it isn't because every human living in the west is cruel, but because our species can be cruel.
When that guy threw the shoe at Bush Jr, for example, I completely understood. But I also did not vote for Bush just like you don't like your government.
Try treating humans as individuals.
Labels do not make an individual automatically only do good, or only do bad. Our species behaviors are not in our labels, but in our evolution. It is still up to individual humans to see others as such.