RE: It's not religion..believe me. It's something else
November 14, 2018 at 10:14 pm
(This post was last modified: November 14, 2018 at 10:24 pm by WinterHold.)
(November 14, 2018 at 11:50 am)Brian37 Wrote:(November 14, 2018 at 11:34 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Anarchy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barons%27_War
I don't think they learned until now. Britain had a long history of wars, either with France or within itself or as a consequence of the imperial expansions. My point is that when you want a war with 30,000,000 casualties, you never go to religion: but you go to the Kuffar -like the Mongols- or the west -WW1 & WW2-.
I do know that the west has good people in it, and that's what the human race has:good and bad people.
But we are not speaking about the good people now; we are speaking about the criminals that hurt western people before they hurt foreigners; they led Europe and America to a world war once, and now they are doing it again (Trump and his likes).
AGAIN Atlass, I HATE TRUMP TOO, and if you did not notice, Macron, the French PM basically bitch slapped him on the international stage at a memorial honoring the END of the brutality of war. Trump is an authoritarian asshole wannabe, he has more in common with the likes of Putin, Un, the Imams of Iran and your Saudi Ruling family than I do.
I don't like Bibi Nuttyfuckhoo either. But, I will never lose sight, regardless of our different locations on this planet, that there are STILL plenty of decent humans that can and do see beyond the powers above them.
We as a species would do better collectively to reject tribalism, especially now, when there is no more room for conquest for any side, and especially since we live in an age of mutual destruction and friend and foe alike have nuclear weapons.
The flags and old borders must end and go, and we must forget tribalism and racial affiliations.
I didn't see Macron's bitch slap to Trump.
(November 14, 2018 at 12:02 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: Jesus. F. Christ, this nutbag cant put together a coherent argument and keep it until his next post. He seems to have the attention span of a fruit fly. I am really in doubt that responding to his incoherent ramblings is worth the time.
Can you guide me to the "insult bank" that you borrow your insults from??
It's always the same broken record: ( not making coherent sentences/ ignorant / crazy/ old fashioned/ look at me I am so modern and smart/ camel fucker/ sheep fucker/ ...etc )
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I mean update your list of insults, please ! then return to me.
My post was coherent and nothing is wrong with what I said. Maybe the problem is in your reading skills?
(November 14, 2018 at 12:05 pm)Brian37 Wrote:(November 14, 2018 at 11:18 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: I'll also point out that theists like Atlas are fond of claiming that the deaths under Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and the Gang Of Four were motivated by religion.
And whatever else you might say, the Israelli situation, Afghanistan, ISIS, and Sunni and Shi'ite violence are all about religion.
Ultimately it's a pointless argument. Yes, other things besides religion start wars. And yes, nothing as stupid and pointless as a religious war is as common as one.
The former fact doesn't reduce the significance of the latter fact.
To be fair to Atlass, plenty of Christians and Jews pull the same argument too.
And they'd all be wrong because religion never left those dictatorships. Dictators are not about oppressing religion as being their only goal, but any and all dissent. Dictators will leave the religious alone if that group kisses their ass. All of them had to pander to religious groups to gain and keep their support.
That says more about the dictators being good to anybody that kisses their ass, religions are not an exception.
For example, the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt vs Al Azhar in Egypt.
Al Azhar is pro the dictatorship; Muslim Brotherhood is against it.
