It's not religion..believe me. It's something else

[Brian37]

.........Fuck it!

Atlas first argument

My reply: Religion does move nations, even 300 years after the mongols, as evidenced by the 30y war. I also pointed out it was an EUROPEAN war, so replying with a list of biggest global events misses the point.

I also pointed out that a religious motto was embossed on the belt buckles of German soldiers in WWI 700y after the mongols (in reference to your original claim that religion doesnt motivate nations to go to war, particularly not after the mongols. Your reply: a list containing WWI.

The religious motto is to give them courage; humans love motto.

Kuffar = unbelievers? What is your fucking point. Sounds like word salad to me, honestly.  Who "wants a war with 30mio casualties? What war? WTF?

Of course you are a non-believer -kaffir-; or did you believe in God??

THAT WAS NOT MY FUCKING POINT!!!!!!
My point was, in reply to
that you tried to defend killing innocent people (terrorists doing the killing), by claiming that other innocent people got killed (relatives of terrorists) In your case you switched over to the nukes dropped over Japan to illustrate the suffering of the first innocent victims, WHICH STILL DOESNT JUSTIFY KILLIN GOF MORE AND OTHER INNOCENT PEOPLE IN RETURN.
Got it? YOU DONT HAVE TO KISS MY ASS AFFIRMING THAT THERE ARE GOOD PEOPLE HERE. THAT.WAS.NOT.MY.FUCKING.POINT

Fucking hell, i have to explain to this guy his own arguments.
*calms down and drops in a valium*

No I never defended the killing of innocents; so this table flipping tactics -which is very cheap- is quite useless. Please read my post again.


I will repeat what I said: when you burn others, you get burned. That's why in school, you don't hit others and steal their lunch, because tomorrow they will hit back.
Which is the argument of terrorists when they make a disgusting crime; their argument is always: "but America bombs the innocent in Iraq". Maybe if America stopped bombing civilians in Iraq, Yemen, Afghanistan the terrorists will have no argument?

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You forgot a few.

https://atheistforums.org/thread-57270-p...pid1848788

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So, in other words, you're just pointing fingers for the sake of pointing fingers.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, you are nothing but a full fledged apologist for Muslim and Arab atrocities, and every post and thread you make simply proves it.

You are a disgusting human being for looking for reasons to excuse such things, and you ought to be ashamed of yourself.

But if it's anything that hard core Muslims lack...

Meh...

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I hate the words "Zionist" as much as I do "anti- Semitic"" 

What makes you or anyone think I blindly support Israel?  I DONT, I do not think Israel gets everything right. But just like they are not going to wipe out all Muslims, you are not going to wipe out Israel. Just like neither Christians NOR Muslims are going to rid the world of atheists. 

It still remains that between the east and the west, AND WE ARE BY NO MEANS PERFECT, but between open states and closed states, the west still has more opportunity to correct mistakes and defend minorities. 

I would only agree right now, that the west is seeing a rise in BULLSHIT nationalism, just like the vile garbage Hitler started and used effectively. But please do not think everyone agrees with that sick crap in the west. 

I am not a blind defender of anything.

Brian.. did you ever read the history of Israel, how it came to be?
Do you realize that the British created it out of thin air? there was nothing called Israel (but in the Bible). Do you realize that the Palestinian people got kicked, killed, butchered by the Jewish newcomers?

I knew Palestinians in my life, a lot actually. And believe me, they are one of the saddest things ever, people who got kicked out of their homes, have no papers, no passports, nothing.

The Israeli regime is a racist, tyrannical regime that existed through the murder of the Palestinians. That's why the resistance in Gazza will never cease, and the hate Muslims have for this regime is never ending.

It's just like the native Americans and the western invaders.

The Israeli regime is just like ISIS or any other terrorist organization, but with more technology.

NO, If you do not like Israel picking on Palestine, and you dont like Christians picking on Muslims, do not think everyone in the west agrees with Bibi. I hate Bibi as much as I do Trump. But that does not change that the leaders of Islamic Countries like Iran and Saudi Arabia are enemies of Israel.

If you are not willing to lump Ann Frank in with the likes of Bibi, like I am not willing to lump the likes of Malala in with Bin Laden, then the real issue is getting more humans beyond tribalism.

Our species was around long before Jews and Christians and Muslims. Our species displayed compassion and cruelty long before as well. Stupidly though, humans are still stuck on religious tribalism, INCLUDING JEWS, but also Christians and Muslims.