RE: Christian morality delusions
November 20, 2018 at 10:58 pm
(This post was last modified: November 20, 2018 at 11:23 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Sure, an objective morality isn't arbitrary, if it exists.
I think so, sure. It would be a little bit odd if it didn't..requiring a more elaborate explanation for it's absence than it's presence. In the same vein, if it simply didn't or..even stronger, couldn't...whatever argument to that effect would take down a huge amount of other things we establish in the same way, by the same means, with the same assumptions, under the same axioms, with identical semantics. It's unclear how moral facts are different from bird facts. It's unclear how moral realism is different from realism in general. Ultimately, we'd only be negotiating over how much else we're willing to burn down that we take for granted as uncontroversial.
(November 20, 2018 at 9:27 pm)wyzas Wrote:(November 20, 2018 at 8:21 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: All of your beliefs and experiences are personal to you. Even the objectively true ones.
Correct, a being that exists prior to creation and lives outside of our known reality has nothing to do with whether or not there is an objective morality. An objective morality only hinges on one thing. The existence of mind independent facts of a moral matter. That's it, that's all. Nothing else.
Does that exist?
I think so, sure. It would be a little bit odd if it didn't..requiring a more elaborate explanation for it's absence than it's presence. In the same vein, if it simply didn't or..even stronger, couldn't...whatever argument to that effect would take down a huge amount of other things we establish in the same way, by the same means, with the same assumptions, under the same axioms, with identical semantics. It's unclear how moral facts are different from bird facts. It's unclear how moral realism is different from realism in general. Ultimately, we'd only be negotiating over how much else we're willing to burn down that we take for granted as uncontroversial.
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