(November 27, 2018 at 1:54 pm)YahwehIsTheWay Wrote:(November 27, 2018 at 1:19 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Luke clearly has his Herods muddled up.
IT'S THE HOLY REVEALED WORD OF GOD! THERE ARE NO ERRORS!
NO ERRORS!!!!!!
(November 27, 2018 at 1:46 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: I read over your points, but the issue I see is that you're basing a timeline off the quote "the babe leaped in her wound", but that is referring to Elisabeth and John. So it would be hard to use it as a marker for conception then fast forward 10 years. Interesting observation though.
It also says Elisabeth was "filled with the Holy Spirit", meaning God within, allowing her to know Mary was pregnant. She refers to the fruit of her womb in the present tense. Mary was pregnant at the point of her visit.
I think the best way to analyze something is to look at it in its base form without adding anything unnecessarily. If not we end up trying to state facts based on assumptions. What we know is it says she was "filled with the Holy Spirit", but it's referring to Elisabeth. As far as the tense, that line was written in Greek with the word "Karpos" (fruit) and the tense isn't the same. In fact, the Greek language uses more tenses than English. So to assume that John leaping in the wound meant Mary was pregnant isn't something that could be concluded. Additionally, if you've ever been to a Catholic church, they'll frequently speak that line. I'm not a Roman Catholic but have been to their churches before and they honor Mary by saying something like, "Mary, Mother of God, Blessed is the fruit of thine would..." Even now they speak in that tense, but their ideology states that the meeting with Elisabeth was a confirmation that Mary was to be the mother of Christ. Whenever you translate texts from other languages, there are going to be difficulties. That's true especially with any ancient literally works, including the Bible, and even more so since it is a compilation of many books from several languages.
Glad you brought it up though. It's an interesting subject.
