RE: Damned STUPID Priest yesterday . . .
December 4, 2018 at 11:17 am
(This post was last modified: December 4, 2018 at 11:25 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(December 4, 2018 at 11:04 am)tackattack Wrote: Why not just eliminating supernatural and natural killers, we are talking about humans here so let's leave out dingo killing and just focus on humans. Are you really denying that the biggest numbers come from modern superpowers?You're trying to argue stats...lol. No one neds to deny that modern superpowers have the biggest stats. They had the nastiest weapons, after all. OFC.....modern superpowers are still chiock full with a majority of the religious....so there's that....
I don't really distinguish between those that kill for God, or because of God, and those that kill for irreligious reasons or kill in response to religion or a hatred for religion. If Jihadest didn't have the Quran, they'd still find some other reason to kill. If Christians didn't have the Bible, and wanted to kill some witches and take over some lands and get some loot, they'd have found another reason for it.
My point was..here let's go through the absurdities:
1. Guilt by association- negative actions of any and all X reflect badly upon all X, all forms of beliefs held by X
2. Excluded middle- The big 20th century regimes were either by religious, irreligious. By those touting their religion or by a desire to destroy religion.
3. Snow Job- let's posit tons of supporting arguments and numbers to support and classify each side. Let's not, they're only marginally-relevant.
4. microscopically smaller and less dense populous and fractionally less practical mass murder tools in history make mass genocide much harder than it is today.
5. science attempts to limit populations, alter genes, invents more mass destruction capabilities, lengthens lifespans all without regard for cause or moral value outcomes.
All 5 of the above points are completely worthless. Science, religion, hate, fear, don't kill people any more than guns kill people. People will justify their actions with whatever is handy.
I'd rather see a conversation about trying to understand human motivations to kill and whether any social construct (law, morality, etc.) can prevent people from killing others, or are we all just domed for genocide?
This is the short version of a long story. If you'd like to argue that the religious have never been motivated by what they felt their god commanded them to do in the slaughter of others then I don't have the patience for your bullshit. If you don't feel the need to explain how -atheism- motivates a person to kill in that same way, then..again..I don't have the patience for your bullshit.
God told me to kill that motherfucker!
No God told me to kill that motherfucker!
Can you spot the difference? OFC atheists kill people! We might even be better at it than theists (lelz, just one more thing we're better at). The difference is that atheists do not kill people "because atheism" as the religious kill people "because religion". Now you can huff and puff from here to there and swear that no god ever commanded them to do so (and I'd agree..because there are no gods to do any commanding)...but that's not what they thought...now, is it?
-Now, turning my attention to the holocaust rewriters. Hey, you know what, it's true that the nazi admin wanted to come up with their own little cult and had little time for chriustendom as it was..but to maintain that the motivation for the soldiers who did the killings, who exterminated the jews, the apathy and antipathy felt..did not have it's origin in explicitly christian bigotry and pogroms spanning back centuries is....well, just more bullshit I don't have the patience for.
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