RE: Damned STUPID Priest yesterday . . .
December 4, 2018 at 11:23 am
(This post was last modified: December 4, 2018 at 11:31 am by Angrboda.)
(December 4, 2018 at 4:09 am)tackattack Wrote: You can do better than that wyzas, I want numbers, extinction numbers. I mean we theists did our part but i’ll take Marxist like regimes for 250 million Alex.
Let’s continue the false dichotomy of theist vs. secular. Fundamentalism vs. anti religious. It all leads to the same place that people can kill regardless of their philosophies. What is true is that denser populations and more efficient and horrible ways to kill exponentially increases the death toll. We should blame science for increasing life spans and reducing sickness and giving us tons of ways to easily kill. That’s it, science is the biggest killer, let’s quit that shit🤐
This is nothing but nihilism in a friendly coat.
(December 4, 2018 at 5:33 am)Cherub786 Wrote:(December 3, 2018 at 11:17 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: That still doesn't support your statement that they were motivated by atheism or hatred of religion. I'm an atheist, but when I eat food, I can tell you it isn't motivated by my atheism. Telling us that they were atheists tells us nothing about what their motives were.
They were motivated by the desire to create a religion-less society. That obviously came from their atheism.
I don't accept your assertion that it is obvious. That's the act of an emperor striding around without any clothes on. So, still, citation needed.
(December 4, 2018 at 6:33 am)Belaqua Wrote:(December 4, 2018 at 5:40 am)Wololo Wrote: The openly christian Nazi Germany killed at least 6,000,000 on religious grounds.
You're really stretching it to say that the murders were done on religious grounds.
In the early days of WWI as the German army proceeded through Belgium, it was considered good strategy to kill all the priests they could find. They calculated that priests could have authority in organizing local resistance. The motivation was power and land, which easily overrode religious comradeship.
Nazism was rooted in ethnic theories. These theories derived from the Enlightenment project to explain national and regional differences through materialist explanations. (That is, not the blessings and promises of God, but "scientific" things like blood and inheritance.) Montesquieu, for example, said that national character was determined by climate (with the French climate being the best, of course). For a long time there were influential theories going around that ethnic differences, differences of blood, scientific differences, determined which "race" was superior. It is horrifying to read the opinions of influential Enlightenment philosophers on the scientific (they thought) facts concerning blacks, Asians, and "Semitic" peoples.
Are you suggesting these ethnic theories and German anti-semitism had nothing to do with centuries of religiously rooted Christian anti-semitism?
Forgive me if I doubt, but I do.
(December 4, 2018 at 6:47 am)Cherub786 Wrote: Notions of Aryan supremacy and a superior race of people, if anything, came from Vedic religion and not Christianity
The swastika is a Hindu symbol, especially used by the Brahmins and the Arya Samaj (Aryan Society):
Bahahahahahaha! That has to be the most pathetic argument I've ever heard on this forum! Congratulations. You've reached heretofore unbreached levels of stupidity.