Damned STUPID Priest yesterday . . .

[The Grand Nudger]

Actually I was not trying to argue stats. I think it's pointless. I'd rather see a conversation about trying to understand human motivations to kill and whether any social construct (law, morality, etc.) can prevent people from killing others as I stated. If you want me to posit that  religion is a reason for killing, it is. Lack of religion isn't a reason for killing because it topologically isn't a thing, it's a lack of a belief. Atheism doesn't motivate, but anti-theism does. It's simply the way the pendulum swings. I know of very few atheist who only hold their atheist belief in a hermetically sealed container by itself.

Yeah, find me some atheists who think that NO God told them to kill in the name of No God.  Until then, you're just passive aggressively reasserting that shit, lol.  You can try the same, again, with anti-theism..I'm an anti-theist.  Let me check my anti-theists manual of appropriate rationalizations for murder.

Nope, simply being a theist aint in there.  Mostly, because anti- theism is a stance against -theism-...not the fucking people..ya twat.  If people could manage to keep gods dick in their own pants I wouldn't be an anti-theist to begin with.  I'd gladly shiv the beliefs themselves, though, if there were any way to do so. Any suggestions?

It's cool, we can let it slide, between us. 

I think just laws can deter killing. I think just personal, societal and objective morals can deter them as well. I don't think the world is getting more secular is the only factor in increased death toll, or overpopulation, overcrowding , advancement of technology or compounded moral/social injustice. I'm not dismissing them as underlying attributive reasons either.The argument that religion kills people though is petering out and I don't think it speaks to what's more important and that's finding a better path forward.

IDK that they can deter killing, but they certainly give us some standard and just means to handle things when a killing has occurred.  There's a need to prevent a repeat occurrence.  Insomuch as our laws fail to do that I think they need work.  More rehabilitation, more behavioral modification..less retribution and killing-in-kind.  

Religion doesn't kill people, no more than god kills people...gods and their religions motivate people to kill people.  It's always the people doing the killing.  If theism weren't such an effective magnifier of the worst of human nature then it wouldn't be a problem.  It is, so it is..unfortunately. I respect that fact that your beliefs don't seem to motivate you to kill...but that was true for every believer before the moment they killed for their various princes of peace. It's worth keeping your eye on.