RE: Angry Atheists and Anti-Theists
December 12, 2018 at 2:19 pm
(This post was last modified: December 12, 2018 at 2:31 pm by T0 Th3 M4X.)
(December 12, 2018 at 1:57 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:(December 12, 2018 at 1:02 pm)Agnostico Wrote: U started of reasonable but then u just ended up like the rest. Trying to put a belief label next to my agnostic position.
All after everyone said they didn't want labels
I don't care about beliefs. They mean nothing to me. Their just based on feelings. Thats all it is. FEELINGS.
Demonstrably false.
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/ucla-s...reas-40881
Neuro-science knows where in brains various functions are processed.
The comment is true, but to say it makes his statement false isn't accurate, because how are brain processes something can depend on how we feel about it and our chosen response. In other words, you're trying to disqualify one part of the process that can affect other parts of it. Two people can experience the same stimuli, have different feelings about it, and their brain may process it completely differently. Example: One person can like what the president said and feel confident or another person can disagree and feel distress, or even feel like it's an attempt at betrayal. Maybe it's something to do with taxes and one person is getting the short end of the stick. Well you might see anger. Maybe they're saving money. They might feel happy and relieved. What applies to one person doesn't necessarily apply to others. I'm guessing Agnostico probably is more left-brained in his approach to life. I couldn't say the same about myself, as I favor the right hemisphere. It doesn't mean you don't use both, but the capacity we use both is different.
(December 12, 2018 at 2:08 pm)Brian37 Wrote:(December 12, 2018 at 1:58 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Take things with a grain of salt. Internet atheism and theism isn't typical as to what is actually out there in most cases. Usually you can't tell the difference with people. If I go to the grocery store I don't try to figure out everybody's religion, and it rarely comes up in conversations. If someone proposes some wacky claim or something doesn't sound right, it makes since just to go and do some research. If it's right, you learned something. If it still sounds fishy, throw it back because it didn't hold enough weight.
Not the point. Between the ability for a majority, in any given society to be open in in public, for that majority, in person, it is far easier for that majority, than another minority living under that majority to be open in person.
It is going to be easier for a Sunni to be open in public in Saudi Arabia than say a Sunni living as a minority in Shiite Iran. It is going to be easier for a Jew to be open in Israel than a Muslim living in Israel. It is far easier in America face to face, for a Baptist or Catholic or Mormon, or Protestant to be open in public than it is for a Muslim or atheist or gay person.
Of course if you don't bring things up in public there is less likely to be conflict, but that does not mean that there are not presumed social pecking orders in any given society.
It's my point, and my point doesn't have to be your point. I don't go out looking to cry about people over nonsense. if someone wants to rage at others because of what they believe, then maybe they should rethink what they believe. If some wacky "theist" or "atheist" starts spouting what I consider nonsense, then I won't discriminate in not giving a rat's behind. No different that the nut trying to sell me DirecTV every time I walk by the electronics department at Walmart. Why? Because it holds no value to me. Arguments are just that, arguments. Opinions are just that, opinions. You can go round-n-round indefinitely and nobody wins. IMO, it would make more sense for the atheists and theists to focus on what they have in common, then work together to build on those things. Not this "my science can beat up your science" silliness. Or, "I don't believe in God, so you cant" type of thinking. We make choices based on experiences and how we interpret them. Sometimes we get things right and sometimes we're wrong, but that's okay. That's why there are erasers on pencils and a delete button on our keyboards. And it's fine, because that's what's called "life" and it will allows for a constant learning process so that we can grow as individuals and as humans.