(December 22, 2018 at 6:53 am)Gae Bolga Wrote:(December 22, 2018 at 2:50 am)Maketakunai Wrote: I know that opens up all sorts of ethical and moral questions, but I feel pretty comfortable in saying that I think Syria has been more trouble than it's worth to the U.S.. I'd rather see the money we're wasting there used to build a wall on our southern border, but that's a whole other conversation.
Everything is more trouble than it's worth when we half ass it then quit. Remaining the worlds indispensable nation, however..is priceless.
WALL is an equally bad idea.
Unfortunately, since America wants to maintain the illusion that we don't topple other governments or try to control the laws and policies of lesser (yet equally sovereign) nations using methods we would never allow to be used on ourselves... this is what happens. If we were serious about making the world a better place we would just take these little shitholes over outright and be done with it. The truth of the matter is that the American people like being able to buy cheap goods made by women and children who are paid pennies a day. We're pretty comfortable with all the suffering in the world if it makes our lives a little easier.
We deny it, of course, but most people deny it while continuing to buy cheap goods from overseas. Have you ever had something shipped from overseas? I bought my Xiaomi 365 (the electric scooter Bird uses) in 2017 directly from the manufacturer for $250 and it cost almost $200 to have it shipped from China before all of the Trump tariffs. I can't even begin to imagine how little a car costs to actually build overseas, pay shipping cost, and still be competitive with an American made car.
Honestly, I'm in favor of just taking over Mexico and making it the 51st state. They're into us for 80 or 90 billion dollars and we give them hundreds of millions of dollars in aid every year. Just annexing them would eliminate a lot of problems for all concerned, including the humanitarian issues, and there would be no debate at all about walls. As I said though, we like stuff made by cheap labor.