RE: FFRF is pissing off Ham and the Christians..... again.
January 13, 2019 at 7:09 pm
(This post was last modified: January 13, 2019 at 7:10 pm by polymath257.)
(January 13, 2019 at 6:14 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:(January 13, 2019 at 5:38 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: They ARE free to go if they choose. No one is stopping them. The issue isn't whether people can take a religious holiday - of course they can, they have a constitutionally protected right to do so. The government DOES ensure that they are free to go if they choose.
It isn't about the park and the museum. It isn't about Ken Ham being a world-class dimwit. It isn't about the right of people to go to these attractions. It's about a local government violating the establishment clause. That's all.
Boru
It's not violating anything. It's nuts claiming it does. If people want to go, they have the right to go. Now if they demanded you go, then there would be a problem if you don't want to go, but those people clearly were interested in going. Makes no difference if it was a museum or an atheist church.
Yes, if people want to go, they have the right to go. If they don't want to go, they have the right to not go. Nothing has changed in those rights.
But, the government doesn't have the right to sponsor such an event. The people don't have the right to expect the government to promote or advertise their trip. They can do their own advertising without the government getting involved. THAT is the whole issue here.
(January 13, 2019 at 5:01 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:(January 13, 2019 at 4:20 pm)Brian37 Wrote: No they are not, you know nothing about them.
Yep. Wacko cult. Looks like they got to you already.
(January 13, 2019 at 4:13 pm)polymath257 Wrote: Why was the city government promoting a *religious* outing? That is what is illegal, not private citizens deciding to go to a non-sense theme park.
The people were promoting it. It's not the business of the government to interfere. It's an action of the people. There are people in the government, if those people choose to do something, then let them choose. That's what's known as freedom.
The government isn't supposed to be a power "over" the people, it's supposed to be a power "of" the people.
People >/= Government
not
Government > People
The government is not there to tell them they have to go, but the government should ensure they are free to go if they choose.
No, the *government* was promoting it. That is the whole point. And yes, it isn't the place of the government to interfere one way or the other. But in this case, it did so.
