RE: Atheists being asked about the existence of Jesus
January 17, 2019 at 7:10 pm
(This post was last modified: January 17, 2019 at 7:18 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(January 13, 2019 at 8:47 am)Acrobat Wrote: I think people look at those who deny Jesus historically existed, like they would flat earthers, or holocaust denialist. We have first hand accounts of someone who met his disciples and brotherWe don't have those. We have psuedepigraphy, interpolations, and downright forgery...all swirling around a hellenic mytheme.
Quote:, we have Josephus writing of his brothers death, we a number of sayings, parables, stories incorporating a unique style of irony, reversals of expectstions, etc.. in mutiple texts, attributed to none other than Jesus.The vox populi. Everyone wants to cram their favorite saying into the mouth of a demi-god, lol.
Quote:In fact Jesus was acknowledged as historical person even from staunch Roman opponent said of Christianity.The romans also acknowledged the existence of the dragons of britain... and vowed to defeat them.
Quote:If you try and explain all the events that transpired and gave rise to the Christian movement, without a historical Jesus, it’s not long before it drifts into the mother of all conspiracy theories, that you start sounding like someone suggesting sandyhook was stagedWhat events? The rise of christianity didn't happen until 300ad. "Jesus" wasn't exactly around to help at that point in time. They spent their first 1k years as a church purging their own myths......and textual criticism has spent the last 200 pointing out the legendary. They had to stomp on a few heretics along the way....oddly enough, people didn't seem to agree about "the events"..and, by people, I mean early christians.
If you want to know about events that shaped the christian movement..consider this. Following a generation of pandemic...and a the assumption of a new dynasty whose emperor needed to fire all the praetorians plotting to kill him.........christ, as we know him...was born. It was a culture that improved the sick and poors way of life...and an ideology that was useful to that populations owners..both in the immediate (then)present and near future. The whole situation with the christian apparatus was a sort of street war between vox and the imperial cult, the same man heading both sides of that culture war for a time.
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