(January 20, 2019 at 6:24 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(January 20, 2019 at 6:04 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Not the point. If their supporters want to say, "I am not like them" or " I don't like what Trump says all the time", then the responsibility is on them to turn to those who say and do those vile things and tell them to knock it off.
We are not talking about politics as normal. Now is not the time to say, "Oh well, what are you going to do".
Just recently Pence tried to equate Trump to MLK. That is fucking nonsense, and not only nonsense, it is really another dangerous attempt for him to wink at far right white bigots and tell them they are now the new oppressed group.
And even today the orange turd, after years of shitting on Hispanics/Mexicans and Puerto Rico, is now saying that he is a friend of those groups because he threw in a DOCA plan to his 5 billion dollar vanity project which was nothing more than pandering to his bigoted base.
If his supporters want to say others in their ranks don't represent them, so what? They have no right to bitch if they don't want to clean their own house.
Well, the point wasn't Trump supporters talking to other Trump supporters, it was the futility of non-Trump supporters reasoning with Trump supporters.
You of all people should be very, very careful of using the phrase 'not the point'.
Boru
No, the thread was asking why we bother. I didn't miss that point.
I am merely saying that we really have no choice at this point. I would love to go back to the days where nuts were simply passed by on the street and ignored. I was adding to the fact we have no choice but to respond, isn't a matter now of changing hearts of his base, but to act as empowerment to those who know he is a vile bully, and to get moderates and independents who are on the fence to see him as too toxic to support.
So for the moderates and independents willing to hold their nose and take the win despite everything he has said and done vilifying entire races and religions and kissing up to dictators, if they don't want that response, then they should grow some balls and stand up to the fucker.
