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Atheists being asked about the existence of Jesus
RE: Atheists being asked about the existence of Jesus
(January 21, 2019 at 11:43 pm)Acrobat Wrote:
(January 21, 2019 at 11:15 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Is that as much as you know about critical scholarship?  That nutballs have opinions and people make movies?  Do you want to have this conversation or just sling shit back and forth?  

I take it by this newest series of batshit diversions you have no explanation for your attempt to certify mythology by referring to folklore, but perhaps you simply don't understand why this is a loons idea of historicity?

Are you under the impression that the legendary character of paul is a novel position held exclusively by a-historicists and filmmakers?  It's not.  It's the standard position of new testament scholarship..there is no dispute in this from any corner.  You can stow the "my mythology or no history" routine..I'll tell you that from the outset.  It's trash, entirely non-academic..and I won't humor you.  So consider that you're wasting your breath the next time you blurt out some silly shit like the above?

So the standard position among NT scholars are that Paul and Jesus were not historical figures?

Is it also the standard position of historians that Josephus writings shouldn’t be trusted,  including non disputed portions of his text?

I point out a first hand account, you claim it’s not a first hand account because supposedly the person who wrote it didn’t exist.

I point to the writings of the only Roman historian writing of that entire period of Roman Palestine as evidence as well, and you claim that his historical writings aren’t evidence either.

These are cards from a flat earthers playbook whether you realize it or not.

Let me tell you about the actual standard positions among historians and NT scholars.

That Jesus and Paul are historical figures, that Josephus is a reliable source for first century history, that the James portion is authentic.

I don’t care if you’re  in a secular or religious university, but no major history or NT scholarship department suggests otherwise.

Why don't you do yourself a favor and go research these issues before you attempt to engage in the convo?  As for the rest, I told you I wouldn't humor that mouth breathing shit, lol...did you expect something to have changed since I last posted?

Or maybe you could just use the search function on these boards, where this same convo has occurred a dozen times or more in recent memory? You have failed, again, to explain how you made such a tremendous mistake in the very first article of your growing list of assertions. Until you put in that time and engage in this conversation, I see no reason to type the same thing I typed to the last nutbar who came in and made the same assertions, again.
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RE: Atheists being asked about the existence of Jesus - by The Grand Nudger - January 22, 2019 at 1:44 am

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