RE: On the subject of Hell and Salvation
January 22, 2019 at 4:53 am
(This post was last modified: January 22, 2019 at 4:57 am by GrandizerII.)
(January 22, 2019 at 4:46 am)Godscreated Wrote:(January 22, 2019 at 2:31 am)Grandizer Wrote: It doesn't matter what I think now or whether I learned anything as a Christian. The fact of the matter is that many Christians who claim to be guided by the Holy Spirit answer this question as an exclusivist as opposed to an inclusivist. Without hearing the Gospel, one cannot be saved. This isn't to say that exclusivists necessarily believe God doesn't reach every single person on this planet in some way, but they do argue that access to the Gospel is nevertheless necessary, so if God never reaches out a hand to a someone born in sin, they will never have the chance to be saved ever.
It doesn't matter what anyone says, the Bible speaks the truth and it says different than what you are playing around with.
Then show some examples. Don't just go by your own intuition (which you mistake for the presence of the Holy Spirit). Romans 10 (well, Romans in general) contradicts what you're saying, but perhaps there's a verse somewhere outside of Romans that will support what you say.
(January 22, 2019 at 4:46 am)Godscreated Wrote:(January 22, 2019 at 2:31 am)Grandizer Wrote:
What you believe contradicts what Paul said in Romans. No one can be saved by living a good enough life. That's the point of Romans. Perhaps the Holy Spirit has yet to guide you in the right direction.
Paul says those who do not hear the gospel will become a law unto themselves and they will be judged on that by God and His judgement will be just.
Get over it God has made it possible for all to be saved through Christ even if they have never heard the gospel of Jesus Christ.
GC
No, I'm not going to get over it. Paul in Romans says that no man who is not under the written law is with excuse because they have the law written in their hearts, therefore they have every reason to be condemned just like anyone else. It doesn't say that someone who has never heard of Jesus can still be saved.