RE: Why I don't believe in 'free will'
May 28, 2009 at 9:18 am
(This post was last modified: May 28, 2009 at 9:26 am by Edwardo Piet.)
(May 28, 2009 at 4:16 am)Darwinian Wrote: I may have overreacted but when I read your post you came across as very angry, rude and abusive and I simply wasn't in the mood.
Well I wasn't angry...I was enjoying the debate lol...
And I don't see how I was remotely rude or abuse. There were no ad homs there whatsoever.
I can give you a POSITIVE ad hom if you want though Darwinan: You're a cool guy and I'm fascinated by your interest in and knowledge of physics....
Sorry if you took anything personal...I meant nothing personal - there were no ad homs....
I wasn't (and still am not) remotely angry...actually I was having a good day yesterday so if anything I was kind of elated! Certainly wasn't remotely pissed off!! (Besides, I don't get pissed off on the internet anyway).
(May 28, 2009 at 9:12 am)Darwinian Wrote: I work on the idea that I am free to imagine all sorts of weird and wonderful things
1. I am fine with imagining things without evidence. I will happily IMAGINE God! But I will need evidence to BELIEVE in him....I need evidence to believe that something is actually true or actually exists. Imagination if fine!
Quote:without people screaming, show me your f***ing evidence, every paragraph.
IF you are implying that's what I did and I'm like (and I think you perhaps are?) - then I did no such thing. I'm sorry but that is a strawman...
Not one of the swearwords I threw in was an ad hom...non of it was personal whatsoever. And of course you don't HAVE to give evidence....(especially if you don't have any!) - all I'm doing is responding to your arguments and stating the reason why I, personally at least, don't believe in free will - is because there is no evidence.
I think 'no free will' is the default. I need evidence (or a valid reason to believe) that free will actually IS in this universe and it isn't just all physics bouncing about and we simply commonly BELIEVE we have free will (which isn't evidence)...
I'm giving my side...I'm doing my bit - I created this thread on the matter. I respond to your arguments...I'm not going to pretend to agree I'll agree when I genuinely agree, I don't have a problem with you disagreeing I am simply responding...if YOU can stick to your guns as you say then I I can also stick to mine (it's only fair)...
There were no ad homs from me....nothing was personal about it, I wasn't remotely angry and I took nothing personal from you whatsoever either...k?
EvF
