(February 14, 2019 at 3:21 pm)Aegon Wrote:(February 12, 2019 at 4:34 pm)Drich Wrote: honestly do not understand this... the man should be judged on what was acceptable in 1983 not 2019. otherwise we would all be racist homophobic monsters.
Although if it ousts another dim... and shows them to be the party of the confederacy even today, then who am I to argue?
I disagree with your wording but I think we agree overall. Personally, I see no problem with judging somebody for doing something that is, in all honesty, quite explicitly racist, regardless of the year. Now, that being said, I'm still struggling with the idea of holding a person accountable for something they did 35 years ago, for the basic principle that it assumes the self is static, and that people can't see the error in their behavior, adjust accordingly, and be an even better person.
Also, nobody is pure and literally everybody has done something that, if leaked to the public, would most likely result in America hating them. Of course, it depends on the something that they did. Some are worse than others and should be treated as such (i.e., I have no problem with those who committed sexual assault being chastised and kicked out)
I saw an article about a Republican state delegate who was outed for using blackface in 1968. 1968?! An old, white man in southern Virginia did blackface in 1968? No shit lmao. What did you expect? What did you think he thought!?
close enough. I think it is stupid to pretend that race relations where always this bad and I think it is even more foolish to force todays broken standards on a time where thing where much much more relaxed. to pretend the "N" word was always bad if stupid.. I remember in the 90's everyone was saying N-please..
This idea of there being a wedge between whites and blacks (where whites can't go certain places) is a new construct but it is being enforced to all of our collective history. why? to destroy the idea that there was a time did indeed get along outside a few regions in the deep deep south. The idea that the whole country acted like people in the deep south is n-please talk.
that said in 68 black face was as offensive as richard pryor doing a white impersonation
Both sides did it as a way of humanizing and trivializing each other. it demonstertized and made fun of the flaws and common experience. Richard was in front of a mixed crowd, you can't do that if the crowd contains enemys. like wise black face was a common thing.. cant find on line examples but I specifically remember dean martin on the fryers club black faced doing an impersonation of sammy davis jr with him present. funny funny stuff. sammy also was on his back laughing.. again black face then showed comfort and ease with race relations. To do black face was to be super comfortable with black people, not what it means now.
