(February 16, 2019 at 7:59 pm)possibletarian Wrote:(February 16, 2019 at 7:37 pm)MilesAbbott81 Wrote: Typical condescension. You presume I know nothing about logic, when I know perfectly well what it is. I'm saying that God is the One Who determines what constitutes proof...NOT YOU.
How do we determine that to be true ?
Quote:And Lawrence Krauss, an actual fool, has absolutely no understanding of where particles seeming to blink into existence actually come from, therefore he can't say they come from nothing. It amazes me how someone can be so obviously wrong, doing nothing at all to further his argument and not realize he isn't furthering it (I'm speaking of Krauss). God blinding men is a terrible sight to behold.
And how did you come to that conclusion ? Other than he does not believe what you believe.
The universe from nothing argument aside. How do you know it came from nothing ?
Who says you have to determine it to be true? God doesn't save everyone in this life. Maybe you weren't meant to understand. Doesn't make it okay, but it is an answer. But to answer the question, you determine it to be true by the grace of God, and that alone. You can't receive one thing in this world unless it comes from Him.
As for Krauss, I never said I knew the particles came from nothing (if I'm understanding your language correctly). I don't know where they came from, either. But Krauss can't definitively say they came from nothing because he has no idea where they came from. He is assuming they came from nothing. They came from something alright, he just doesn't know what.