(February 18, 2019 at 3:02 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:(February 18, 2019 at 2:23 pm)Yonadav Wrote: Well it doesn't look like an oath to Hitler at all, since the pledge of allegiance isn't to a person. I'm not a big fan of the pledge because I think that it is wrong to take oaths from children. I never took an oath until I joined the Air Force. The pledge isn't indoctrination, because it isn't followed up with anything doctrinal. So the students really do just see it as meaningless words. Being from a culture where oaths are a super serious thing, I see a problem with the pledge trivializing the entire concept of oaths. When some kid spends 13 years repeating an oath every day that they see as being meaningless, I don't know if I can take their word for anything or not.
Doesn't it start, "I pledge allegiance to the flag" that IS indoctrination it is doctrinal.
It does not trivialises oaths, it makes people super nationalistic and you get stupid ideas like American exceptionalism.
That's not what indoctrination is. Like I said, it isn't followed up with anything doctrinal. Indoctrination isn't mindlessly repeating a few words every day. Indoctrination is a regimen of proper thinking. By definition, mindlessly repeated words are not indoctrination.
Mindlessly repeating words is only indoctrination in the high school drop out pot smoking hippie living in their mother's basement sense of the word.
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