(February 18, 2019 at 3:22 pm)Drich Wrote:(February 18, 2019 at 3:12 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: And do you know how many times I have ever said that pledge as someone who has lived in Britain my entire life?Maybe your 50 year old brain is broken or maybe your distance from God allows you to never admit when you are wrong, what ever the reason you are trying to brush this off, and as many times as you spoken to me in a derogatory fashion/for being stupid, you need to admit you where wrong...
NEVER, I have never said that pledge, not once in my entire 50 years.
Because that is what you say when you become a british citizen and you say it once, not every fucking day as a brain washing activity.
It is not the same thing nor is it similar to what we are talking about.
Seriously you call me stupid and arrogant while stating something that is entirely incorrect and claiming superiority.
You are the definition of irony.
YOU SAID YOU COUNTRY DID NOT HAVE A PLEDGE.. Before you try and worm your way into another red herring, you need to first concede that you are so ignorant about your country that you should have not even spoke about the existence of a pledge to your queen before you took a second and looked it up!
You need to seriously admit this error.
"Your distance from God"
Yea, bet you'd have an easy time trying to convince the Governments of Saudi Arabia and Iran that Jesus is needed in their public schools. Feel free to try it. Pretty damned sure their leaders love their forced indoctrination and prayer in their public schools too.
But the good thing about people like Jefferson and Paine, is that they didn't want a theocracy, and didn't want blind loyalty. But what the fuck would they know?
If you RIGHTFULLY reject what North Korea does, in their public schools. AND THEY DO force their youth to sing songs and make pledges IN SCHOOL EVERY FUCKING DAY, pledging their loyalty to the dear leader, then you should be able to understand why it is not a good idea for America to go that route.