(February 18, 2019 at 1:34 pm)Lek Wrote:(February 18, 2019 at 9:25 am)Rahn127 Wrote: For those that argue intelligent design using the phrases "For every painting there is a painter or for every building there is a builder", please remember that all of those raw materials were here first before we were.
Nature comes first before any designer.
And every designer is made of natural materials that were here longer before the designer stepped on the scene.
Just a little something to think about before you make arguments that don't hold water.
Where did nature come from? Your argument doesn't hold water either.
First we acknowledge that the universe exists.
From our observations of galaxies we see that most everything is moving away from us. There is also some expansion going on as well that contributes to this effect. The further away something is, the faster it is moving away from us.
As we turn back the hands of time, we see a universe where there are no galaxies, no stars, no matter, only energy.
You ask where nature comes from.
It comes from the existing energy of the universe.
The energy of the universe exists.
How would you get rid of it ?
Where would it go ?
Insanity - Doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result
