(February 18, 2019 at 5:54 pm)Belaqua Wrote:Um no. Fredds link gives a date of approx. 1300 BC slap bang in the middle of the bronze age. Out of generosity, I granted a later date of 1000 BC just enough to take it out of the bronze age and demonstrated that it actually is bronze age superstition. For reasons unexplained, you seem to think that 1000 BC is earlier than 1300 BC. What fucked up peculiar mathematical trajectory brings you to that is anyone's guess. Fredds citation was for a much earlier date than I granted ad arguendo. Having argued against a bronze age date you are now arguing for a bronze age date This is sufficient for me to conclude that you have no clue what it might be that you believe, let alone anyone elses belief's.(February 18, 2019 at 10:24 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: The pentatuch was composed in or around 1.000 BC
The summary of the book fredd linked us to gives a much later date. Of course the book may be wrong.
Let me carefully explain it to you 1300 BC happened 300 years before 1000 BC. What part of this is difficult for you? The domain of integers appears to be a sealed strange papery scary object that the rest of the world calls a book.
(February 18, 2019 at 5:54 pm)Belaqua Wrote: You are right that at least one of the stories is based on a very old source.One? Really? Just one? That was an exemplar, and with that you have demonstrated that not only have you not read your magic book, you haven't read any book, ever.
25-30 years ago, I used to teach and I learned a simple fact that I truly hate. Confronted with the facts, I couldn't deny what was straight up in my face.I really really fought against this with every fibre of my being because I was ideologically driven to believe it was true. Finally, I had to fold and concede intellectual defeat. I had to concede that there really are irretrievably stupid people out there in real life. I found it rather disturbing to stand at the head of a class teaching the finer points of Z80 programming only to have a "wwjd?" question fired from the eaves. At first, I went with the "Relevance" question., then on to slight engagment, then right along to flinging the wingnut right out. When I was an educator I found it to be a thankless job. Except for those precious moments. I have twice had a spontaneous standing ovation. I have no idea if either were deserved. Both involved ejecting a religious wingnut
(February 18, 2019 at 5:54 pm)Belaqua Wrote: Also I was interested to know how we can be sure that illiterate people, with a terminus ante quem of 1200BC, composed stories that weren't written down until centuries later, and which contain details that they couldn't have known. If a story can be found in another literate culture that constitutes evidence, but illiterate goat herders tend not to leave behind written records.Oh really? Thats a load.
I've downloaded the book, and I'll compare it to the reference materials I have on hand.