(February 19, 2019 at 8:08 am)PRJA93 Wrote: That you're too cowardly to even quote me shows that you know how ridiculous you sound; how funny.
The hell are you on about? It's clear I was addressing you, you idiot. Have you ever thought that, depending on the device being used, that quoting piece by piece may not always be convenient? But if you want a piece-by-piece quote, so be it.
Quote:So you're obviously backing off on your first point (about the mother claiming her child "never said that") because you now get how dumb it was to say that, although it's alarming to me that you didn't realize how stupid that was before saying it...
Well, excuse me for not being nitpicky enough. I gave you the other side of the story to keep things balanced. If you want to take the police's word for it, go right ahead. After all, it's clear that cops have never tried to cover their ass in court by making false statements. </sarcasm>
Quote:So now you're just sticking with the second point... That black children also have to deal with over-policing.
Mind-reading, mind-reading, mind-reading.
Quote:The issue here is, this: I'm actually well aware of these statistics and well aware of the fact that minorities face a disproportionate amount of discrimination in this country. It's terrible, honestly. I don't really think any sensible person denies that, actually.
Yeah, it's just in this specific case, it was something else, right?
Quote:But what does that have to do with this situation? How do you know the people's intent behind punishing this child, even if the punishment is unjust? See, you're the type of person who assumes that if a child is black and is punished, it must be because they're black. THAT is the fucking problem on the other side of the spectrum. Correlation does not imply causation; not every black child who's punished is punished because they're black. Not every white child that gets away with it gets away with it because they're white.
That certainly is logical (not being sarcastic here, I really mean it), but the problem is that we're dealing with probabilities and stats, and it is reasonable to argue that subtle racism may have been involved because that's what the stats show. It's not 100% certainty, but you can bet your ass that was it.
So to be clear, I never said with absoluteness that it must be because the kid was black that he was arrested. I spoke in terms of betting and was actually being facetious at the start.
Quote:Simply yelling, "this school is racist" does not make it so. That's what you fucking morons don't seem to get. Making a claim that someone or something is racist simply does not make it so. But you won't accept that because it doesn't fit your narrative.
And simply denying that this and that are racist does not mean this and that are not racist. It goes both ways. So we go with the stats, and we make inferences taking into account the details of the specific situation at hand.
Quote:If there is evidence that this was racially motivated, I'll be the first person to say fire anyone involved and make sure they never teach again. But your nonsense is unfounded and I'm sick of hearing. Holy fuck you're dumb.
What kind of evidence for subtle racism would you even consider to be evidence in the specific sense? Are you asking for evidence, or absolute proofs?
Quote:The funny part is, a lot of black people tend to laugh at people like you.
Like who?
Quote:It's ironic, actually.
Ha ... ha ... ha?
Quote:One of my best friends growing up was black and would immediately play the race card whenever he got into trouble and it got him out of trouble like 90% of the time. I thought it was fuckin hilarious, honestly.
Yeah, nice anecdote you have there. Very convincing.
Quote:And people like you eat that shit up, which is even funnier. The real issue with that kind of behavior, now that I'm older and understand just a little bit more about the world, I see how problematic that behavior is.
So you're a guru then with decades of experience and insight, eh? How old are you again?
Quote:"Playing the race card" legitimately makes it harder to smoke out real racism; maybe it's the sort of "boy cries wolf," mentality but I'm not really sure and don't pretend to have any answers.
When did you ever smoke out real racism? Most of the time, all I've ever seen you do was play apologetics for both racism and sexism, and accuse "people like me" of playing the race card. And when you have denounced them, it's only when they're "really real". Almost as if you don't think that racism and sexism is as prevalent and systemic as they really are.
Now how's that for quoting? Have I honored you enough with diligent addressing of every worthy point you make, o wise one?
