RE: Kid arrested for not standing for pledge...
February 19, 2019 at 9:31 am
(This post was last modified: February 19, 2019 at 9:34 am by EgoDeath.)
(February 19, 2019 at 8:59 am)Grandizer Wrote: The hell are you on about? It's clear I was addressing you, you idiot. Have you ever thought that, depending on the device being used, that quoting piece by piece may not always be convenient? But if you want a piece-by-piece quote, so be it.If you're addressing me, quote me.
(February 19, 2019 at 8:59 am)Grandizer Wrote: Well, excuse me for not being nitpicky enough. I gave you the other side of the story to keep things balanced. If you want to take the police's word for it, go right ahead. After all, it's clear that cops have never tried to cover their ass in court by making false statements. </sarcasm>I'm not "taking the police's word for it." Them arresting the student goes in line with the claim that threats were being made by the student and that his behavior was unruly and out of control. Your claims that they must be making false statements to cover their ass is a COMPLETELY baseless assumption. Oh, but wait, you're not CLAIMING that, you're just saying it could possibly be true! Making things up to cover your ass. How ironic.
(February 19, 2019 at 8:59 am)Grandizer Wrote: Yeah, it's just in this specific case, it was something else, right?I don't know; I wasn't there. Once again, YOU'RE the one hellbent on assuming intent here, and you're only quoting statistics because they help your narrative, which anyone with half a brain can see is nonsense. I wasn't even fucking TALKING about race until you brought it up. LMAO. You are so fucking stupid it's funny. My only point was correcting the title of the thread, that he was arrested for behavior following the incident concerning the pledge. Which shouldn't even be an incident, people shouldn't have to stand for the pledge if they don't want. That was my point. YOU brought race up. Your racist ass made this about race. Not me
(February 19, 2019 at 8:59 am)Grandizer Wrote: That certainly is logical (not being sarcastic here, I really mean it), but the problem is that we're dealing with probabilities and stats, and it is reasonable to argue that subtle racism may have been involved because that's what the stats show. It's not 100% certainty, but you can bet your ass that was it.So, because it's statistically possible, in your mind, you can "bet your ass" that it had to do with race? Once again, what fucked up, twisted world do you live in? You see the world through black or white, minority or majority, not me.
So to be clear, I never said with absoluteness that it must be because the kid was black that he was arrested. I spoke in terms of betting and was actually being facetious at the start.
(February 19, 2019 at 8:59 am)Grandizer Wrote: And simply denying that this and that are racist does not mean this and that are not racist. It goes both ways. So we go with the stats, and we make inferences taking into account the details of the specific situation at hand.Sure, it could be racist. But that doesn't mean, "so we go with the stats," that's YOUR reality. That's not the world I live in and that's simply not how I look at people. Once again exposing your covert racism. Because you clearly want to take specific details of the situation at hand, accepting them at face value because they support your view, while ignoring other details of the situation. You are cherry-picking which parts of this story hold up the "this was a racially motivated incident" narrative.
(February 19, 2019 at 8:59 am)Grandizer Wrote: What kind of evidence for subtle racism would you even consider to be evidence in the specific sense? Are you asking for evidence, or absolute proofs?What evidence do you have? Clearly none.
(February 19, 2019 at 8:59 am)Grandizer Wrote: Like who?Huh?
(February 19, 2019 at 8:59 am)Grandizer Wrote: Yeah, nice anecdote you have there. Very convincing.Not really concerned if you find the anecdote "convincing." It happened plenty of times. Though I bet if I had an anecdote about a racist white teacher who picked on black students, you'd gobble that the fuck up. I actually do have one of those too.
(February 19, 2019 at 8:59 am)Grandizer Wrote: So you're a guru then with decades of experience and insight, eh? How old are you again?This is just pathetic dude. Just stop.
(February 19, 2019 at 8:59 am)Grandizer Wrote: When did you ever smoke out real racism? Most of the time, all I've ever seen you do was play apologetics for both racism and sexism, and accuse "people like me" of playing the race card. And when you have denounced them, it's only when they're "really real". Almost as if you don't think that racism and sexism is as prevalent and systemic as they really are.Play apologetics? The FUCK are you babbling about? We need to address real racism and sexism where it actually exists. Not attempt to smoke out racism (interesting projection there on your part you ambulance chasing fucking idiot) where it doesn't even exist, then go on to crucify anyone and everyone who disagrees with you that said situation is racist. When have I confronted racism in my real life? I doubt if I told you about different situations you'd even give a fuck or believe me. Because, once again, it doesn't fit your narrative. The idea that I stood up for my friend when a racist teacher tried to lie about my friend smoking pot behind the school doesn't help you, so you would write it off as me "trying to prove I'm not racist" anyway, which is ironic, as you are clearly the one who sees the world through this racial lens that I simply don't.
Now how's that for quoting? Have I honored you enough with diligent addressing of every worthy point you make, o wise one?
And yet you have STILL made no valid points about this specific situation containing any real trace of racism! How fucking talented must you be to spin things this hard and not get dizzy from it? Bravo, granddouchebag, bravo.
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