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Nature comes first
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RE: Nature comes first
(February 19, 2019 at 8:51 am)Rahn127 Wrote: What is energy ?

Energy, in physics, the capacity for doing work. It may exist in potential, kinetic, thermal, electrical, chemical, nuclear, or other various forms. Energy in the process of transfer from one body to another.

A bat hitting a ball.
Wind moving the blades of a windmill.
Heat boiling water on a stove.
Every movement you make

Energy exists in many different forms. Examples of these are: light energy, heat energy, mechanical energy, gravitational energy, electrical energy, sound energy, chemical energy, nuclear or atomic energy and so on.

Sound energy moves the air.
The air moves your ear drum.
The ear drum creates an electrical pulse in your nerves that travels through your brain to create the experience of sound.

We call this transference ...energy.
It is not intelligent. It simply is what the universe is made of, in all it's various forms.

People spend their lives studying all the various forms of energy. A long distance runner. An engineer who builds bridges. Companies who put satellites in orbit.
Hell, every job you can think of deals with energy.

When a kite flies, a god is not lifting it up.
It's the wind.

When chemicals mix and form compounds, a god is not creating the compound.
It's just chemistry and the forces of nature.
Electrical charges, transferring electrons, chemical bonds.

I think you know all of this.

You're trying to fit your god in there somewhere.
You have this belief and you want your god to be doing something, to be part of that chemistry, to be part of the wind, to move the angle of the bat so you get a home run, but it's just your imagination.

I'm sorry, but all we have is reality.
It's a wonderful place. Lots of mysteries still to be solved. But you can't solve a mystery if you think some invisible, intangible, all knowing, all seeing entity did it.

There are actual answers to your questions.
You just have to discover them.

As a five year old, it's cute when they say my imaginary friend ate the cookie.
As an adult, saying the imaginary friend created the universe stops becoming cute.

Very impressive, but you've used a lot of words describing the characteristic of energy when the original question was where did it come from.  You can throw all the scientific knowledge in the world around all day, but either there is something or there is nothing.  Either there was something here from infinity, or there was nothing before there was something.  Maybe you all don't care about the purpose of existence, but to me that's really what it's all about.  That's what humankind has searched for since we came about.  There is nothing amazing about a universe that just evolves according to some random natural processes.  Everything is just more dirt in different forms.  I'll ask another five year old question.  Is the universe limited in the size it can become or are its boundaries infinite? If it is limited in size, what is the nature of what is beyond the physical universe?  What space is the universe expanding into?  Atheists are convinced that science will one day be able to answer all these questions whereas ancient wisdom already had the answers.  The more scientists learn about the universe, the more they realize we don't know.
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Nature comes first - by Rahn127 - February 18, 2019 at 9:25 am
RE: Nature comes first - by no one - February 18, 2019 at 10:11 am
RE: Nature comes first - by Lek - February 18, 2019 at 1:34 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by Rahn127 - February 18, 2019 at 9:34 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by Lek - February 18, 2019 at 10:06 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by Peebo-Thuhlu - February 18, 2019 at 10:20 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by Rahn127 - February 18, 2019 at 10:57 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by Lek - February 18, 2019 at 11:18 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by Rahn127 - February 18, 2019 at 11:22 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by Lek - February 18, 2019 at 11:36 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by Grandizer - February 18, 2019 at 11:41 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by Peebo-Thuhlu - February 18, 2019 at 11:41 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by Lek - February 18, 2019 at 11:48 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by Fake Messiah - February 19, 2019 at 12:01 am
RE: Nature comes first - by Lek - February 19, 2019 at 12:07 am
RE: Nature comes first - by Fake Messiah - February 19, 2019 at 12:51 am
RE: Nature comes first - by Peebo-Thuhlu - February 19, 2019 at 3:46 am
RE: Nature comes first - by Yonadav - February 18, 2019 at 10:21 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by Yonadav - February 18, 2019 at 1:38 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by Lek - February 18, 2019 at 1:42 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by The Valkyrie - February 18, 2019 at 2:13 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by Lek - February 18, 2019 at 2:24 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by purplepurpose - February 18, 2019 at 2:30 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 18, 2019 at 2:36 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by The Valkyrie - February 18, 2019 at 2:46 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 18, 2019 at 2:23 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by purplepurpose - February 18, 2019 at 2:01 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by Lek - February 18, 2019 at 2:03 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by Yonadav - February 18, 2019 at 2:05 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by Lek - February 18, 2019 at 3:13 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by Peebo-Thuhlu - February 18, 2019 at 4:08 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by Lek - February 18, 2019 at 5:20 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by Peebo-Thuhlu - February 18, 2019 at 6:10 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 18, 2019 at 6:35 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 18, 2019 at 4:16 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by Duty - February 19, 2019 at 5:01 am
RE: Nature comes first - by bennyboy - February 18, 2019 at 5:45 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by fredd bear - February 18, 2019 at 6:20 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by bennyboy - February 19, 2019 at 12:06 am
RE: Nature comes first - by Lek - February 18, 2019 at 6:39 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by Peebo-Thuhlu - February 18, 2019 at 7:18 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 18, 2019 at 8:52 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 18, 2019 at 7:03 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by Lek - February 18, 2019 at 10:51 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by The Valkyrie - February 18, 2019 at 11:17 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by Amarok - February 19, 2019 at 1:50 am
RE: Nature comes first - by Rahn127 - February 19, 2019 at 8:51 am
RE: Nature comes first - by Lek - February 19, 2019 at 2:02 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by Rahn127 - February 19, 2019 at 2:23 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 19, 2019 at 2:43 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by The Grand Nudger - February 19, 2019 at 3:07 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by fredd bear - February 19, 2019 at 6:10 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by Gawdzilla Sama - February 19, 2019 at 6:14 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by The Grand Nudger - February 19, 2019 at 6:16 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by fredd bear - February 19, 2019 at 7:23 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by EgoDeath - February 19, 2019 at 10:04 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by Grandizer - February 19, 2019 at 10:22 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by EgoDeath - February 19, 2019 at 10:26 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by Grandizer - February 19, 2019 at 10:31 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by fredd bear - February 19, 2019 at 10:27 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by EgoDeath - February 19, 2019 at 10:29 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by EgoDeath - February 19, 2019 at 10:36 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by Grandizer - February 19, 2019 at 10:46 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by EgoDeath - February 19, 2019 at 10:49 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by Grandizer - February 19, 2019 at 11:01 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by EgoDeath - February 19, 2019 at 11:02 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by Grandizer - February 19, 2019 at 11:04 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by EgoDeath - February 19, 2019 at 11:07 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by Grandizer - February 19, 2019 at 11:10 pm
RE: Nature comes first - by EgoDeath - February 19, 2019 at 11:25 pm

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