RE: Stop Re litigating 2016 liberals /OP ED.
February 20, 2019 at 10:57 am
(This post was last modified: February 20, 2019 at 11:05 am by Yonadav.)
(February 20, 2019 at 10:38 am)wyzas Wrote: Bernie isn't a viable candidate in fly over country. Dems need to find a candidate that will connect with a majority of the nation. Got to keep in mind the E college, it's not just popular vote.
Fly over country? That's country where most Dems aren't viable. Bernie is one of the few who has any chance there at all. Bernie is popular in deeply red places like West Virginia. You aren't thinking clearly. In 2016, Bernie would almost have certainly delivered the rustbelt. The rustbelt didn't go for Trump because they loved Trump. They went for Trump because they wanted to shake things up, and were sick to death of the New Dems. Bernie was a candidate that would have appealed to them, and still does.
Do you live in a deep blue area? You talk like someone who does. People in deep blue areas have an impression of what people think in fly over country that is pretty off base. Left leaning populism has a lot of appeal there.
(February 20, 2019 at 10:56 am)Brian37 Wrote:(February 20, 2019 at 10:44 am)Yonadav Wrote: What bullshit purity? Are you arguing with figments of your imagination again? I support Bernie. I want him to be president. If he doesn't win the nomination, I will shift my support to the person who does win the nomination-- unless they are a New Dem. I won't vote for a New Dem again, under any circumstances.
You don't like it that I won't vote for a New Dem? Too bad for you. If the party is stupid enough to run another New Dem, then it deserves four more years of Trump. I can take it. It sounds like you can't. Too bad for you.
NOT THE FUCKING POINT.
What I don't want to see, is the same shit as 2016. If he gets the nomination, I WILL SUPPORT HIM. If Biden gets the nomination, I will support him. If Harris gets the nomination I will support her. If Warren gets the nomination I will support her.
I am not voting for Bernie in the primaries like I did last time. NOT because I hate him. But I don't see him beating Trump. But if he does get the nomination, I will support him no matter what.
Like I said, your response is part of the reason I hesitate to support him this time. Not because of him, but because of you.
Same if Hillary jumped in too. Not because of her, but because of the purists she had too.
Primaries are for showing differences. That I am fine with. But the general election is about getting the party in power.
The Supreme Court should be the most important focus right now. Judges hold office long after 4 or 8 years and set the tone for entire generations. Letting Trump fuck up the court even more would be a disaster.
I am not against you supporting Bernie, I did last time in the primaries myself. I am against the fucking purity test both Hillary and Bernie supporters had last time.
You supported Bernie the last time, but you won't support him this time because of me? That is stark raving insane. If you are pulling your support of Bernie because of Bernie supporters, then you are making it more likely that the nominee will be someone who is unacceptable to Bernie supporters, which makes it more likely that Trump will win. So what you are doing is certifiably insane, if your primary objective is to stop Trump.
You should spend some time seriously considering the possibility that you're an idiot.
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