RE: On the subject of Hell and Salvation
February 23, 2019 at 2:21 pm
(This post was last modified: February 23, 2019 at 2:22 pm by MilesAbbott81.)
(February 23, 2019 at 10:48 am)possibletarian Wrote: And there's our problem Mike, you cannot in any reasonable terms discuss christianty without establishing the validity of it's authority first, otherwise what differs it from all other religions, creeds and beliefs that you don't accept ?
For one, there is no other religion that claims God Himself came to us as a man, at least of which I'm aware. Second, everything about Christianity, when it isn't being interpreted through the carnal lenses of phonies, makes sense. Everything about the world can be rationally reconciled with the testimony of Jesus Christ, which is why I was interested in discussing actual Christianity and not simply the existence of God, because the "philosophy" of Christianity makes the truth about God even more readily apparent.
(February 23, 2019 at 10:48 am)possibletarian Wrote: You then go on to claim a special revelation about cancer cures, and claim a site (that you say ) is the only place (you are aware of) that has true wisdom from god which of course was written by men, who you also claim to be liars, unless they agree with you, or you them.
It's not revelation, I merely said the Lord gave me to stumble across these treatments (or that is what I meant, anyway). The evidence is out there that water fasting can cure all kinds of diseases (including MS and type 1 diabetes). The problem is people put too much faith in men, and prefer simple and easy "fixes" like swallowing pills (and are loath to change their habits, particularly those related to diet). Dandelion root powder is new to the cancer scene, but there is research about that out there as well. The heat treatments (hyperthermia) are widely used in Germany and probably many other places. I'd recommend the film "Cancer Can Be Killed" as one example (just Google it). Doctors are much more interested in making money, so they insist on conventional treatments that rake it in.
(February 23, 2019 at 10:48 am)possibletarian Wrote: Here's your challenge, try discussing the merits or truth of the christian faith without resorting to a godly authority, you can use the bible or any logical argument, but as soon as it requires any special revelation, or claim to be inspired by a god, then clearly you need proof that the author of that authority exists.
Well, what's written in the Bible can only be understood if God gives the understanding. Understanding it on your own would be like an ant attempting to learn astrophysics. That said, the messages in the Bible are clearly spelled out, but to take credit for the understanding absent God's grace would be disingenuous.
And while we've been through this before, I'll state it one final time: proof exists. You just don't consider it to be proof because you're far more interested in disproving God than in proving Him.