I don't have time to address all this properly, so.... I'll just focus on getting back to the original notion.
Wrong, sport. Not Spanish.
This reminded me of US schools being assaulted by US-born gun nuts.
There are borders around the EU. Very strict ones. You'd be surprised. No need to waste billions in walls, either.
Indeed, why was Peter's gospel not kept in the Bible?
Because its philosophy wasn't entirely in line with the philosophy that the Pauline Christianity was wanting to impose.
Peter, for example, would have been ok with women priests. A rather forward notion for the times, but that would just mess up the narrative being pushed by the followers of Paul.
With this, Mary Magdalene was depicted differently from what is now canon.
And tell us again Drich. Was it someone who convinced you that you were selected?
Or was it some circumstance in your life that "opened your eyes"?
If the latter, then your being here is basically useless.
Because you need proper philosophy.
Your god is indistinguishable from a super advanced alien.
The Catholic god is an underlying conceptual framework without which nothing can exist, for it is the very concept of existence (among many other things).
Can you spot the difference?
Your great god is puny.
Your book was written by people, for people, drawing upon notions and stories that were floating around in the...wait for it... popular mythology.
What I learned about the book was that it would be written in Greek if the purpose was to disseminate it throughout the larger region of Asia Minor and Eastern Mediterranean. Many people wrote Aramaic with Greek characters and, if it would be for popular and local consumption, your book would have been written like that.
As it is, it had the clear purpose of convincing people that were not around and could not in any way verify the stories.... except through faith... It was a propaganda device... well.... I should say "they", not "it". There were many gospels and similar texts floating around. All with the same goal: propaganda.
(February 25, 2019 at 3:41 pm)Drich Wrote: I know you are from spain I am mocking you.. you speak and think as an isolationist. you have the mind set that your culture your langage is the world and time bench mark and everything should be easily understood and accessible to you. You are the picture of the fat lazy westerner/american the rest of the world hates!!!
Wrong, sport. Not Spanish.
(February 25, 2019 at 3:41 pm)Drich Wrote: let's put it in a modern context. lets say ISIS strikes you city, and they keep comming becuse you live in one of those puny european places with o guns and they find no boarder oppostion so they just at will bomb and shoot the place up killing people at will!
This reminded me of US schools being assaulted by US-born gun nuts.
There are borders around the EU. Very strict ones. You'd be surprised. No need to waste billions in walls, either.
(February 25, 2019 at 3:41 pm)Drich Wrote:Quote:Yes, and you said it was Paul.citation please. Peter is the father of the catholic movement yes.. however paul wrote 2/3's of the bible my question was if peter was the father of the church then why did he contribute so little to it?
I still see only people being mentioned as actually doing something on Earth.
Indeed, why was Peter's gospel not kept in the Bible?
Because its philosophy wasn't entirely in line with the philosophy that the Pauline Christianity was wanting to impose.
Peter, for example, would have been ok with women priests. A rather forward notion for the times, but that would just mess up the narrative being pushed by the followers of Paul.
With this, Mary Magdalene was depicted differently from what is now canon.
(February 25, 2019 at 3:41 pm)Drich Wrote:Quote:because we do not know who is and who is no till the final judgement. I grew up the first 1/2 of my life thinking I was not 'selected.' Now I know that was not true. I simply fell into believeing the same bs you guys keep hiding behind.
If there is a god, and if that god only wants to pick out a select few, then why are those allegedly selected always yammering the non-selected about how these should accept some hidden entity as lord and savior and super creator of the whole cosmos?
Leave us be. We were not selected.
Why are you here?!
And tell us again Drich. Was it someone who convinced you that you were selected?
Or was it some circumstance in your life that "opened your eyes"?
If the latter, then your being here is basically useless.
(February 25, 2019 at 3:41 pm)Drich Wrote:Quote:It does make perfect sense in a man-made god, though... so there's that.if that where true then why isn't ever taught as I explained it?
Because you need proper philosophy.
Your god is indistinguishable from a super advanced alien.
The Catholic god is an underlying conceptual framework without which nothing can exist, for it is the very concept of existence (among many other things).
Can you spot the difference?
(February 25, 2019 at 3:41 pm)Drich Wrote:Quote:In the meantime, I'm here looking you twisting yourself while I have the most straightforward and realistic perspective upon things. People.the only thing that get twisted is you little perception of a great God and an explaination of a book that has chewed you up and spit you out today.
Your great god is puny.
Your book was written by people, for people, drawing upon notions and stories that were floating around in the...wait for it... popular mythology.
What I learned about the book was that it would be written in Greek if the purpose was to disseminate it throughout the larger region of Asia Minor and Eastern Mediterranean. Many people wrote Aramaic with Greek characters and, if it would be for popular and local consumption, your book would have been written like that.
As it is, it had the clear purpose of convincing people that were not around and could not in any way verify the stories.... except through faith... It was a propaganda device... well.... I should say "they", not "it". There were many gospels and similar texts floating around. All with the same goal: propaganda.
