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(March 7, 2019 at 10:19 am)tackattack Wrote: I don't believe he decomposed. His flesh died, prior to the resurrection. Typically, the soul (breath) was abandoned “to Sheol,” and the body saw corruption or decayed when someone died.
It's not explicit what happened to his body, other than it wasn't there after 3 days. Maybe it was eaten or decayed faster than 3 days, maybe it was burnt up, or spirited away by angels, no one really knows or cares. He gave his flesh for the life of the world and when he appeared after the resurrection, didn't need that flesh anymore.
So it wasn’t a physical human body that rose up? Then what about when Thomas put his fingers in the wound? Was this a “spiritual body” that just resembled the body that died upon the cross?
It’s also part of some church’s cannon that jesus’ body (usually with him in it post resurrection) rose physically into heaven. Do you consider this to be heretical?
I doubt most church goers really get that granular with their belief, from my experience.
I believe scripture is fairly clear that his resurrection body (spiritual as you call it) was different than His Earthly(natural) body.
1. Why would a resurrected and Holy Jesus, want to put on the old flesh that was sacrificed for man's sin? I equate it to deciding to go to the ball in your 10 grade prom cumberbun after retrieving it from the dump after 20 years.
2. He had several ancillary affects after His resurrection like entering closed rooms, disappearing, not needing to rest, ascension, radiating light from eyes. All of which most commonly we could refer to as supernatural.
3. I don't consider His post-resurrection body to by non-physical like a ghost.
In scripture 1 Cor. 15:35-51
Quote:
35 But someone will ask, “How are the dead raised? With what kind of body will they come?” 36 How foolish! What you sow does not come to life unless it dies. 37 When you sow, you do not plant the body that will be, but just a seed, perhaps of wheat or of something else. 38 But God gives it a body as he has determined, and to each kind of seed he gives its own body. 39 Not all flesh is the same: People have one kind of flesh, animals have another, birds another and fish another. 40 There are also heavenly bodies and there are earthly bodies; but the splendor of the heavenly bodies is one kind, and the splendor of the earthly bodies is another. 41 The sun has one kind of splendor, the moon another and the stars another; and star differs from star in splendor.42 So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; 43 it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; 44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. 45 So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”[f]; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit. 46 The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after that the spiritual. 47 The first man was of the dust of the earth; the second man is of heaven. 48 As was the earthly man, so are those who are of the earth; and as is the heavenly man, so also are those who are of heaven. 49 And just as we have borne the image of the earthly man, so shall we[g] bear the image of the heavenly man. 50 I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.
It describes a different body, this one is just a seed that will grow into a better (imperishable, powerful, glorified, spiritual, Holy made from heaven). First was the natural, then the spirit was added. When this natural body perishes the spirit continues and one day will be reunited with a new body. I believe that summarizes the majority belief in resurrection bodies. I apologize for the length, I've hidden for brevity.
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