RE: The most awkward conversation ever
March 19, 2019 at 7:38 pm
(This post was last modified: March 19, 2019 at 7:39 pm by fredd bear.)
(March 19, 2019 at 4:11 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote:((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((9))))))))))))))))))(March 19, 2019 at 3:20 pm)Drich Wrote: sport, give me the benefit of the doubt.. If i say something that seems way way too obvious then maybe look a little deeper or ask a question... Thomas being a brother of Christ was a gnostic teaching/pov. however in mark Jesus' sibblings where named James, Joseph (Joses), Judas (Jude), and Simon as brothers of Jesus (Greek: ἀδελφοὶ, translit. adelphoi, lit. 'brothers').[1] Also mentioned, but not named, are sisters of Jesus. Some scholars[who?] argue that these brothers, especially James,[2] held positions of special honor in the early Christian church.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brothers_of_Jesus
Which again would make all of jesus brother and sister's half brothers and sisters as their father was joseph.
Yes, siblings were named in Mark but Thomas and Didymus were not names and there is also Gospel of Thomas that begins "These are the hidden words that the living Jesus spoke. And Didymus Judas Thomas wrote them down." In the original Greek version, it is written: "Judas, who is also called Thomas."
So the actual name is Didymus Judas Thomas - Judas, the twin.
Fascinating stuff.
I remember asking one of my De La Salle teachers about Jesus' brothers, because it seemed quite clear to me when reading the gospels.I was disabused of that belief by the usual sharp logic used by Christians in authority; "because I say so" Never anything even close the the sophistication of Yonadav's explanation.
This line of questions has caused me to reflect: I read the bible and made my own interpretation. That was done in good faith. Yet I lacked I the language skills to read the original Greek. Forget about
ancient Hebrew for the Torah.
I have studied a few languages, but am no longer fluent in any. One thing I do remember is how hard it is to accurately translate from one language to another.
The meanings of the gospels overall, as well as individual words remain hotly contested by the many different Christian sects. How then can anyone make a credible claim that THEIR interpretation is 'the Truth"?