RE: Do you wish there's a god?
April 4, 2019 at 4:41 pm
(This post was last modified: April 4, 2019 at 4:43 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(April 4, 2019 at 4:37 pm)Acrobat Wrote:What argument? Where do you see me saying that paintings aren't about aesthetics?(April 4, 2019 at 4:23 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: You may see it that way, but we've already determined that while a given act with moral import or content might also possess some aesthetic quality it;s also possible that it doesnt.
That they are distinct from each other, variable, and so..coincidental. Most of the preserving society and harmony and all that jazz is done in a cubicle by completely bored people who see an endless litany of spreadsheets that aren;t particularly beautiful or ugly. You get the odd nutball with a fetish, ofc.
I'm not particularly interested in killing the enemy for either of those reasons...and it's always ugly to me regardless of why it's done.
-and we're still left wondering what, if any of it, has to do with gods.
Your argument is faulty it’s akin to conflating the act of creating a work of art, with using a paintbrush. It’s like saying paintings aren’t about aesthetics, because using a paintbrush isn’t pretty.
Quote:Killing your enemies is a means to a moral end, it’s not moral in and of itself. It’s tool or a means to an end, but not the moral end in itself.If you say so, but that doesn't make any comment on the item of contention - that moral content and aesthetic content are distinct even if they may sometimes coincide. That it would be phenomenally sloppy to think that any time someone told you that a song was good..they referring to moral content, or that any time someone told you that an act was good, they were referring to it's aesthetic beauty.
Pure......equivocation. Does your reason for believing reduce to pure equivocation about things that have nothing to do with gods?
Quote:Why are we killing our enemies? For what sake or purpose? What end are we serving?
Doesn't matter. I've just told you that the moral status of killing my enemies has nothing to do with any beauty in the act.
Does any of this have anything to do with a god?
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