(April 5, 2019 at 1:02 pm)Acrobat Wrote: In my view the reality we live in and occupy appears to be about something rather than nothing. In fact humanity has long been oriented to such a perception. We're not creatures just looking for ways to survive, but looking for something to live for. We desire meaning, goodness, truth etc.., Are born with this nagging suspicion, that there's something more behind the curtain, that life is more than the sum of its parts.
When I talk about childish arguments this is the sort of thing I mean. It is the mindset of a toddler.
I am not joking there is litterallya stage of brain development where people look for reasons for things to exist.
In the mind of a two year old fish live in the sea, therefore the sea is for fish to live in, if there is a thing with a purpose then obviously there was a purpose giver...
Most people outgrow this and realise that fish live in the sea because that is how they have evolved to be. However some people stay in a childlike mentality and that's one of the reasons for religion.
(April 4, 2019 at 1:54 pm)Acrobat Wrote: We live in a reality that appears to be playing a tune, something that lies at the heart of its excessiveness and ugliness, and beauty, within all its joy and pain.
No we don't.
(April 4, 2019 at 1:54 pm)Acrobat Wrote: There’s something to all of this, that points, to things like we ought to be good, be kind and not cruel, to love rather than hate. That when we see a good person, we see something whole about him, and something empty and absent about a bad one. We see things like cruelty, violence, hatred, resentment, etc as part of darkness, and things like kindness, compassion, mercy, justice as part of the light.
Do you think this describes the god of the bible. One of the most vicious and vindictive characters in all fiction. A being that is supposed to have killed but a few creatures on the planet and all but one family of people. That is not a good being.
(although I must say again I don't believe a word of it it is what some theists believe)
(April 4, 2019 at 1:54 pm)Acrobat Wrote: That there’s something profound about the March from Selma, and something corrupted by the violence directed at its non-violent participants.
This is a out of nowhere and seems unrelated to anything to do with god.
(April 4, 2019 at 1:54 pm)Acrobat Wrote: We live not as empty little biological creatures, just procreating and surviving, but as far more excessive of a being than we ever needed to be, one’s capable of being moved beyond all measure, capable of recognizing depth and beauty that’s difficult to even take in. We’re not creatures existing in a reality uninterested, but a reality playing for us a tune, that perhaps we currently only hear vaguely, but we hear it nonetheless. One that’s about something, rather than nothing.
Well "just no", seems to cover it.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.