RE: Do you wish there's a god?
April 9, 2019 at 4:07 pm
(This post was last modified: April 9, 2019 at 4:16 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(April 9, 2019 at 3:57 pm)Acrobat Wrote:Moral realism is exactly this. What I don't believe in, are gods.(April 9, 2019 at 3:13 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: What differences in beliefs? We're both..ostensibly, realists. We both believe that life has meaning. We both accept that people will be dirtbags regardless of whether or not there are true moral statements.
None of this has anything to do with gods, an atheist and a theist can both accept and reject any of these statements on either side.
You don't believe in a transcendent moral order,
Quote:you don't subscribe to a teleological views regarding morality or meaning.I don't actually have a problem with teleological views regarding morality and meaning. What I don't believe in, are gods.
Quote:You don't believe reality possess moral aims, but rather moral aims are the agreed upon subjective goals of some people.I assume that you're conflating moral aims with moral compulsion, here. Acknowledging that people have subjective compulsions towards moral aims is just a statement of a demonstrable truth. What I don't believe in, are gods.
Quote:You don't believe that reality possess intrinsic meaning, as far as I know either.You don't know much, but here's something you can know. What I don't believe in.....are gods.
Quote:So no we don't believe the same things here.You say that you believe in gods. I don't believe in gods. Nothing you've expressed so far has anything to do with gods. We are both, ostensibly, realists. We both think that life has meaning. We both think that dicks gotta dick regardless of the existence of moral truth.
Quote:When i speak of morality or meaning, I mean it the way I outlined, not in the way you do.You mean gods..or, if you don't.,..then you're bullshitting me and wasting your time.
Which I already knew. Rather than hoping to float some argument about how cats are gods...why don't you just establish the one thing that would have to be true for your claims regarding the inconsistency of atheism with realism to be accurate. That realism somehow depends on the existence of a god? That's it, that's the only thing that would do the trick. It's all that you have to establish, you have only that one job. No need to flitter about from this subject to that subject or make an endless list of batshit crazy and irrelevant claims. No need to step on your own dick at every turn, no need to tell us how much of an asshole you really are.
Atheism is just the one thing. I don't believe in gods.
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