(May 23, 2019 at 3:30 pm)madog Wrote:(May 23, 2019 at 3:18 pm)Drich Wrote: dishonest how?
The bible represent two distinct religions with two very distinct set of rules and consequences. ask any jew if they think they are christian, ask any christian if they think jews are christian both will say no. heck ask any jew if they practice the type of judaism found in the bible. 99% will say no, and the ones that do are lying because they can not make the temple sacrifices required in ot judaism.
So then why would Christian be responsible for the thing OT jews where allowed to do?
Would you hod a christian responsible for the laws and rules of OT judaism? what if you saw a christian eating pork? what if you saw a christian working on sunday? what if you saw a christian eat without washing his hands? is said christian not a christian because he does not follow OT judaism rules?
Again what mechanism (besides general stupidity/unga bunga it in same book must mean same religion) do you use to hold NT christianity to the rights rules and rituals to OT judaism?
So you are not bound by the ten commandments?
Am i an OT jew? Did God give the 10 commandments to Jesus? Did Jesus give the 10 commandments to us when he was asked what commandments we should follow as followers of Christ? No what did He say when He was asked?
Love the lord your God with all of your (being) Heart, Mind Spirit and Strength and the second command I give you is to love your neighbor as your self.under these two commands ful fill all of the laws of the prophets. including the 10 commandments... which is why we can eat pork which is why we goto church on sunday rather than the sabbath (Sabot meaning saturday) which is why we do not sacrifice animals on a alter. This is also the reason God does not have the same wrath nor demand we show his wrath to other people/countries.
The laws of morality are a darkages/medieval ideal who's remnants where based on OT judaism, but honestly where nailed and died on the cross.
We (christians) are not judge by laws or rules but by our love for God and our ability to love and forgive our neighbors.
So what or why does the law remain? as areminder that we need atonement that we can not every live perfect enough by the law to earn our way to heaven that instead we need to seek atonement/Jesus which means we shift from a law based ecconomy to a love/atonement based system as christians.
That is what makes OT Judaism different from NT christianity.
Judaism was about following rules to obtain a righteous standing before God.
Then Jesus came and extended the laws of the jews to the point where thought is the same as committing the physical act, thus top shelving/puting the idea of following rules to obtain righteousness far outside our reach. Meaning it forces us to seek out a new way to be found righteous before God. IE we must seek out love and the atonement Christ offers and show it in kind to others.
Otherwise why is there a difference between OT Judaism and NT christianity if NT christians had to follow the same rule set as the jews? would we just then be NT jews? No Christ's teachings where radically different than the laws of moses.
