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Open borders
RE: Open borders
(July 16, 2019 at 3:48 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:
(July 16, 2019 at 3:41 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: @onlinebiker

You want to talk about the enforcement of immigration law. So, let’s talk about it. Is it a fair and reasonable law that allows toddlers to represent themselves at their hearings? You’d like to know what the point is of having these laws in the first place if they aren’t enforced. A valid counterpoint to that question is “are the laws fair in the first place”? Can you respond to that counterpoint without deflecting?

Using that sort of logic leads to - we better let everybody out of prison because innocent people sometimes end up in prison.

Well, no. I believe that’s a slippery slope fallacy. We could most certainly work toward immigration law reform with the goal of fairness in mind without “letting everyone out of prison”. As I said, I’m not well-versed on the topic, but let’s keep our reasoning sound.

Quote:Now - I answered your question.

Answer mine.

Should people who have been given a hearing and were rejected be deported?

Honestly? I simply don’t know. I am too ignorant of the details of this particular subject to say with any confidence one way or the other. I wouldn’t be able to support my position. What little I do know, it seems like many of these laws are unfair. Toddlers representing themselves? really? I see your point; why have laws if we won’t enforce them? I also see the other side; why continue to enforce shitty laws? Or, why aren’t we doing anything to improve them? That’s kind of why I’m following this thread. To hopefully learn a bit. But, everyone is just pissing on each other.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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Open borders - by onlinebiker - July 15, 2019 at 2:20 pm
RE: Open borders - by The Grand Nudger - July 15, 2019 at 2:37 pm
RE: Open borders - by Brian37 - July 15, 2019 at 2:54 pm
RE: Open borders - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 15, 2019 at 3:03 pm
RE: Open borders - by arewethereyet - July 15, 2019 at 3:09 pm
RE: Open borders - by Brian37 - July 15, 2019 at 3:24 pm
RE: Open borders - by arewethereyet - July 15, 2019 at 3:26 pm
RE: Open borders - by Brian37 - July 15, 2019 at 3:34 pm
RE: Open borders - by The Grand Nudger - July 15, 2019 at 3:35 pm
RE: Open borders - by Brian37 - July 15, 2019 at 3:45 pm
RE: Open borders - by arewethereyet - July 15, 2019 at 3:48 pm
RE: Open borders - by Amarok - July 15, 2019 at 3:39 pm
RE: Open borders - by arewethereyet - July 15, 2019 at 3:42 pm
RE: Open borders - by Brian37 - July 15, 2019 at 3:53 pm
RE: Open borders - by arewethereyet - July 15, 2019 at 4:32 pm
RE: Open borders - by The Grand Nudger - July 15, 2019 at 3:43 pm
RE: Open borders - by The Grand Nudger - July 15, 2019 at 3:46 pm
RE: Open borders - by Amarok - July 15, 2019 at 4:23 pm
RE: Open borders - by arewethereyet - July 15, 2019 at 4:24 pm
RE: Open borders - by Divinity - July 15, 2019 at 4:32 pm
RE: Open borders - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 15, 2019 at 4:42 pm
RE: Open borders - by Divinity - July 15, 2019 at 4:44 pm
RE: Open borders - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 15, 2019 at 4:47 pm
RE: Open borders - by Divinity - July 15, 2019 at 4:55 pm
RE: Open borders - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 15, 2019 at 4:56 pm
RE: Open borders - by arewethereyet - July 15, 2019 at 4:59 pm
RE: Open borders - by The Grand Nudger - July 15, 2019 at 4:50 pm
RE: Open borders - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 15, 2019 at 4:53 pm
RE: Open borders - by onlinebiker - July 15, 2019 at 4:54 pm
RE: Open borders - by The Grand Nudger - July 15, 2019 at 4:55 pm
RE: Open borders - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 15, 2019 at 4:58 pm
RE: Open borders - by onlinebiker - July 15, 2019 at 5:19 pm
RE: Open borders - by The Grand Nudger - July 15, 2019 at 5:28 pm
RE: Open borders - by Amarok - July 15, 2019 at 5:30 pm
RE: Open borders - by The Grand Nudger - July 15, 2019 at 4:58 pm
RE: Open borders - by Amarok - July 15, 2019 at 5:22 pm
RE: Open borders - by onlinebiker - July 15, 2019 at 5:24 pm
RE: Open borders - by Amarok - July 15, 2019 at 5:28 pm
RE: Open borders - by arewethereyet - July 15, 2019 at 5:24 pm
RE: Open borders - by onlinebiker - July 15, 2019 at 5:29 pm
RE: Open borders - by Amarok - July 15, 2019 at 5:24 pm
RE: Open borders - by The Grand Nudger - July 15, 2019 at 5:34 pm
RE: Open borders - by arewethereyet - July 15, 2019 at 5:36 pm
RE: Open borders - by The Grand Nudger - July 15, 2019 at 5:48 pm
RE: Open borders - by arewethereyet - July 15, 2019 at 5:52 pm
RE: Open borders - by onlinebiker - July 15, 2019 at 5:38 pm
RE: Open borders - by Amarok - July 15, 2019 at 5:35 pm
RE: Open borders - by Cecelia - July 15, 2019 at 5:36 pm
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RE: Open borders - by Amarok - July 15, 2019 at 5:40 pm
RE: Open borders - by onlinebiker - July 15, 2019 at 5:43 pm
RE: Open borders - by Amarok - July 15, 2019 at 5:47 pm
RE: Open borders - by LadyForCamus - July 15, 2019 at 5:52 pm
RE: Open borders - by Cecelia - July 15, 2019 at 6:02 pm
RE: Open borders - by arewethereyet - July 15, 2019 at 6:08 pm
RE: Open borders - by Cecelia - July 15, 2019 at 6:11 pm
RE: Open borders - by LadyForCamus - July 15, 2019 at 6:16 pm
RE: Open borders - by Cecelia - July 15, 2019 at 6:31 pm
RE: Open borders - by onlinebiker - July 15, 2019 at 7:59 pm
RE: Open borders - by The Grand Nudger - July 15, 2019 at 8:16 pm
RE: Open borders - by Brian37 - July 15, 2019 at 8:07 pm
RE: Open borders - by The Grand Nudger - July 15, 2019 at 5:54 pm
RE: Open borders - by Amarok - July 15, 2019 at 6:05 pm
RE: Open borders - by LadyForCamus - July 15, 2019 at 6:14 pm
RE: Open borders - by Amarok - July 15, 2019 at 6:28 pm
RE: Open borders - by The Grand Nudger - July 15, 2019 at 6:10 pm
RE: Open borders - by The Grand Nudger - July 15, 2019 at 6:21 pm
RE: Open borders - by Amarok - July 15, 2019 at 8:29 pm
RE: Open borders - by onlinebiker - July 16, 2019 at 8:41 am
RE: Open borders - by Amarok - July 16, 2019 at 8:02 pm
RE: Open borders - by Amarok - July 15, 2019 at 11:00 pm
RE: Open borders - by Mister Agenda - July 16, 2019 at 9:33 am
RE: Open borders - by LadyForCamus - July 16, 2019 at 10:54 am
RE: Open borders - by onlinebiker - July 16, 2019 at 11:24 am
RE: Open borders - by The Grand Nudger - July 16, 2019 at 11:28 am
RE: Open borders - by onlinebiker - July 16, 2019 at 11:33 am
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RE: Open borders - by onlinebiker - July 16, 2019 at 2:23 pm
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RE: Open borders - by The Grand Nudger - July 16, 2019 at 2:38 pm
RE: Open borders - by Cecelia - July 16, 2019 at 2:56 pm
RE: Open borders - by onlinebiker - July 16, 2019 at 3:08 pm
RE: Open borders - by The Grand Nudger - July 16, 2019 at 3:16 pm
RE: Open borders - by onlinebiker - July 16, 2019 at 3:23 pm
RE: Open borders - by LadyForCamus - July 16, 2019 at 3:27 pm
RE: Open borders - by onlinebiker - July 16, 2019 at 3:38 pm
RE: Open borders - by LadyForCamus - July 16, 2019 at 3:45 pm
RE: Open borders - by Brian37 - July 16, 2019 at 3:52 pm
RE: Open borders - by Brian37 - July 16, 2019 at 3:44 pm
RE: Open borders - by The Grand Nudger - July 16, 2019 at 3:31 pm
RE: Open borders - by arewethereyet - July 16, 2019 at 3:33 pm
RE: Open borders - by The Grand Nudger - July 16, 2019 at 3:35 pm
RE: Open borders - by arewethereyet - July 16, 2019 at 3:37 pm
RE: Open borders - by LadyForCamus - July 16, 2019 at 3:41 pm
RE: Open borders - by onlinebiker - July 16, 2019 at 3:48 pm
RE: Open borders - by arewethereyet - July 16, 2019 at 3:50 pm
RE: Open borders - by onlinebiker - July 16, 2019 at 3:54 pm
RE: Open borders - by Cecelia - July 16, 2019 at 3:55 pm
RE: Open borders - by arewethereyet - July 16, 2019 at 3:58 pm
RE: Open borders - by Cecelia - July 16, 2019 at 4:03 pm
RE: Open borders - by onlinebiker - July 16, 2019 at 4:08 pm
RE: Open borders - by Cecelia - July 16, 2019 at 4:10 pm
RE: Open borders - by LadyForCamus - July 16, 2019 at 4:08 pm
RE: Open borders - by arewethereyet - July 16, 2019 at 4:12 pm
RE: Open borders - by LadyForCamus - July 16, 2019 at 4:03 pm
RE: Open borders - by Brian37 - July 16, 2019 at 4:37 pm
RE: Open borders - by The Grand Nudger - July 16, 2019 at 3:50 pm
RE: Open borders - by The Grand Nudger - July 16, 2019 at 3:55 pm
RE: Open borders - by onlinebiker - July 16, 2019 at 4:01 pm
RE: Open borders - by The Grand Nudger - July 16, 2019 at 4:02 pm
RE: Open borders - by The Grand Nudger - July 16, 2019 at 8:34 pm
RE: Open borders - by Amarok - July 16, 2019 at 9:09 pm
RE: Open borders - by Brian37 - July 17, 2019 at 9:46 am
RE: Open borders - by Mister Agenda - July 17, 2019 at 9:38 am
RE: Open borders - by The Grand Nudger - July 17, 2019 at 9:52 am
RE: Open borders - by onlinebiker - July 17, 2019 at 10:11 am
RE: Open borders - by The Grand Nudger - July 17, 2019 at 10:14 am
RE: Open borders - by onlinebiker - July 17, 2019 at 10:19 am
RE: Open borders - by The Grand Nudger - July 17, 2019 at 10:21 am
RE: Open borders - by Mister Agenda - July 17, 2019 at 10:23 am
RE: Open borders - by onlinebiker - July 17, 2019 at 10:29 am
RE: Open borders - by Mister Agenda - July 17, 2019 at 10:30 am
RE: Open borders - by onlinebiker - July 17, 2019 at 10:40 am
RE: Open borders - by LadyForCamus - July 17, 2019 at 12:08 pm
RE: Open borders - by The Grand Nudger - July 17, 2019 at 10:56 am
RE: Open borders - by Cecelia - July 17, 2019 at 11:57 am
RE: Open borders - by The Grand Nudger - July 17, 2019 at 12:08 pm
RE: Open borders - by onlinebiker - July 17, 2019 at 12:22 pm
RE: Open borders - by Brian37 - July 17, 2019 at 12:25 pm
RE: Open borders - by onlinebiker - July 17, 2019 at 12:53 pm
RE: Open borders - by Brian37 - July 17, 2019 at 1:02 pm
RE: Open borders - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 17, 2019 at 1:03 pm
RE: Open borders - by Brian37 - July 17, 2019 at 1:07 pm
RE: Open borders - by The Grand Nudger - July 17, 2019 at 12:23 pm
RE: Open borders - by onlinebiker - July 17, 2019 at 1:00 pm
RE: Open borders - by onlinebiker - July 18, 2019 at 6:45 am
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RE: Open borders - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 17, 2019 at 1:00 pm
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RE: Open borders - by Brian37 - July 17, 2019 at 1:13 pm
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RE: Open borders - by onlinebiker - July 17, 2019 at 4:28 pm
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RE: Open borders - by The Grand Nudger - July 17, 2019 at 4:30 pm
RE: Open borders - by Amarok - July 17, 2019 at 4:37 pm
RE: Open borders - by onlinebiker - July 17, 2019 at 5:37 pm
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RE: Open borders - by The Grand Nudger - July 17, 2019 at 4:42 pm
RE: Open borders - by LadyForCamus - July 17, 2019 at 4:57 pm
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RE: Open borders - by onlinebiker - July 17, 2019 at 5:41 pm
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RE: Open borders - by Mister Agenda - July 18, 2019 at 9:47 am
RE: Open borders - by onlinebiker - July 18, 2019 at 10:54 am
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RE: Open borders - by EgoDeath - August 1, 2019 at 7:11 pm
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RE: Open borders - by onlinebiker - August 8, 2019 at 5:21 pm
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RE: Open borders - by onlinebiker - August 9, 2019 at 12:57 pm
RE: Open borders - by no one - August 9, 2019 at 1:33 am
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RE: Open borders - by The Grand Nudger - August 9, 2019 at 11:47 pm
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