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Open borders
RE: Open borders
(August 10, 2019 at 8:06 pm)Belaqua Wrote:
(August 10, 2019 at 8:00 pm)Little lunch Wrote: Actually, for me, it's not about whether white supremacist rhetoric is true or not.
I'm sure some of it is.

Which parts exactly?

When I say, 'I'm sure some of it is', that means I don't know.
And why should I have to know 'exactly' in order to perceive that the way the message is being delivered, if not wrong, is at least extremely anti-social.
What I don't understand is that if you feel passionate about a cause, why not persuade people instead of branding them?
Could it be that people don't listen when they are charged with Nazism straight off the bat?

(August 10, 2019 at 8:09 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: There’s this death spiral argument where a person tries to prove that they aren’t nazis by trying to prove that the nazi thing they said was true.

I call it - I’m not one of them, they’re just right!

It has a cousin, the enemy is using facts.  Well no, if by the enemy you mean white supremacists, the only dog I have in this race.

You can discuss the issue for pages, drop a mountain of links and evidence to the contrary, it doesn’t work.  In my experience.  It doesn’t work because they know they said it, and believe it, and they know they’re not nazis.  They’ll complain about being bullied, being a minority viewpoint, getting suppressed.

Buncha fuckin triggered snowflakes.

Wink

They are getting bullied, that's why they complain about it.
They might be thinking that you know nothing about them, and knowing nothing about you, they might wonder how you came to be qualified to judge them, as a Nazi.
It makes more sense than that they're trying to cover something up.

There's another element to this.
If a person is accused of something here and they deny it, but are then subjected to a round of abuse from the usual crowd that seems to always come in after, snapping at heels, does this not create an atmosphere of hostility?
Wouldn't other people here become worried that if they say the wrong thing, they'll be next?

I think I've said all I'm going to say on this.
I was hoping for more support from others.
If I'm the only one who feels this way, then I guess it's probably none of my business how y'all conduct yourselves here.




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Open borders - by onlinebiker - July 15, 2019 at 2:20 pm
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RE: Open borders - by EgoDeath - August 3, 2019 at 6:36 pm
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RE: Open borders - by Fireball - August 3, 2019 at 8:58 pm
RE: Open borders - by EgoDeath - August 5, 2019 at 4:34 pm
RE: Open borders - by Little lunch - August 7, 2019 at 6:14 am
RE: Open borders - by EgoDeath - August 8, 2019 at 5:11 pm
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RE: Open borders - by no one - August 9, 2019 at 1:33 am
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RE: Open borders - by EgoDeath - August 9, 2019 at 12:42 pm
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RE: Open borders - by The Grand Nudger - August 10, 2019 at 12:12 am
RE: Open borders - by Little lunch - August 10, 2019 at 6:08 pm
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RE: Open borders - by Belacqua - August 10, 2019 at 8:06 pm
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